I Have One Thing To Say About The Shooter

[gab13by13]

Almost everyone is assuming he is from the radical left. I am hearing that he wore a patriotic shirt to blend in with the Magat crowd.

Quite an assumption I think. This kid wasn't that smart for one thing, also, I remember the shooter in Butler, Pa. who also wore a Magat shirt, and guess what, he was a Magat.

I'm just saying we don't know his motives yet, yeah, if I had to bet, he probably was from the left but I am waiting for verification, everyone thought the Butler shooter was also from the left.

Fuck Kash Patel and his boss Stephen Miller.

[Silent Type]

1. It's possible he is left, can't discount it. But more likely an incel looking for 15 minutes, or some

squabble among white wingers.

[CanonRay]

2. I don't think he was from right or left

This was a professional planned hit. There's more to it than politics.

[calguy]

6. I've read comments on Facebook (taken with a grain of salt)

There is an airport five miles away that was not closed down, and a private jet took off shortly after the shooting. This fits with the professional hit job narratives, but again, I read it on Facebook, so draw your own conclusion.

[roamer65]

7. Heard same on MTN. Heading toward MX and transponder went dark over AZ.

[CanonRay]

9. I haven't heard a peep about this from Patel's Keystone Kops.

[calguy]

10. Here is a copy & paste I took from a Facebook post (make your own assumptions)

I’m No Conspiracy Theorist, But… The Strange Case of the Plane That Took Off After Charlie Kirk’s Shooting…
I am not someone who jumps at shadows. I do not believe every rumor, and I do not think every tragedy is secretly a plot. But I do believe in patterns, and I believe in asking questions when the timing is just too clean. And the story floating around about the plane that lifted off from Utah less than an hour after Charlie Kirk was shot is the kind of detail you cannot just brush aside.
Here are the facts as reported online: a private plane with tail number N888KG took off around 3:20, less than 45 minutes after the shooting at Utah Valley University. No manifest filed. No crew listed. The transponder blinked out west of Salt Lake, only to pop back in near Wendover. The ADS-B data looks like it skipped a chapter in the flight log. And the company tied to the registration? A shell outfit called Lehi LLC. If that sounds like a front, that’s because it smells like one.
Now, none of this proves anything. Planes fly every day. Transponders drop off. LLCs own jets all the time. But the timing is the thing. Forty-five minutes after the most politically explosive assassination in decades, a ghost flight takes off and goes dark over the desert. No cameras. No paperwork. Just an empty trail. That is not a “conspiracy theory.” That is a legitimate question begging for answers.
And here is where my skepticism collides with my instincts: if this was a true extraction, it fits into a pattern we have seen a hundred times before. When regimes, corporations, or intelligence services need someone out of a hot zone, they don’t send a parade. They send a ghost. No manifest. No trail. A quick vanishing act into the desert sky. It’s not proof, but it is familiar.
What worries me most is not just the possibility of an extraction. It is how quickly the right has mobilized their propaganda machine around this killing. They were screaming “civil war” before Kirk’s body was cold. They have blamed Democrats, antifa, and the “radical left” without a shred of evidence. They are already calling for mass arrests, martial law, and labeling half the country terrorists. If the shooter was whisked away on a private jet, that is not just a crime. It is a stage being set for something bigger.
Because here is the truth. Authoritarians thrive on chaos. They need their martyrs. They need the appearance of a crisis too big for democracy to handle. And what better way to cement that narrative than to make Kirk’s killing look like the opening shot of a war, rather than what it may really have been: either an inside job, or a tragic act of individual violence now being weaponized for political gain.
I am not saying I know who was on that plane. I am not saying I know who pulled the strings. What I am saying is that the official story is moving at lightning speed to blame Democrats while ignoring very real anomalies that deserve scrutiny. If we let the propaganda wave drown out those questions, we will miss the truth.
Kirk once said gun deaths were “worth it” to preserve the Second Amendment. Now his own death is being spun as “worth it” to sanctify Trump, weaponize the state, and declare war on political opposition. If there is even a chance that someone was quietly extracted from Utah that day, it tells us the real game is not justice. It is control.
We do not need wild theories. We need answers. Who owned the plane? Who was on it? Why did the transponder blink out? Why no manifest? And why the rush to blame the left before the facts are even clear?
I am no conspiracy theorist. But when smoke this thick rolls in, you don’t laugh it off. You look for the fire.

[hamsterjill]

20. That is indeed interesting.

I would think that some hungry journalist would be looking into this. Oh, wait...we don't have those any more, do we?

If this is true in any way, shape, form or fashion, I agree that we sure do need some answers.

[ancianita]

33. Given the way global professionals work for global interests, this is entirely plausible.

Also, given the story making capabilities of AI, and that this is on Zuckerberg's platform, this needs realtime fact checking.

[calguy]

42. Yes, that's why I emphasized the source from which it came

Interesting and plausible, but total speculation at this point.

[Crunchy Frog]

39. In a country that is hurtling towards fascist dictatorship

conspiracies will become a normal part of political life.

Just look at other authoritarian regimes, both contemporary or historical. Nobody would ever gun down or poison or arrange to fall out of windows, journalists or opposition figures, or inconvenient oligarchs, would they? Except in Putin's russia.

Ditto carrying out terrorist attacks to blow up apartment blocks in order to serve as a pretext for going to war.

Conspiracies are a normal part of political life in russia. Why not in the US under Trump, who openly admires and wants to emulate authoritarian leaders like Putin? And exactly which functional political or social institutions are going to stop him?

[MuirHero]

31. The private jet story on FB...

The story about a private jet taking off at a nearby airport shortly after the shooting came from an article that was published by the Daily Mail earlier today. The Daily Mail is a right leaning publication in the UK, which has a low reliability rating.

That said, if there is any truth to this story, this would confirm that there was a conspiracy to take out CK, which involved powerful monied interests. Clearly, the one individual who is benefitting the most from this is TSF, given that the CK execution has now become the top media story and pushed the Epstein scandal to the back burner, at least for now.

[Sneederbunk]

3. Why wear any identifiable shirt or cap?

[Vogon_Glory]

5. Possibly because he's planning to ditch them?

If I’d shot someone important and planned to get away, I wouldn’t continue wearing the same outfit all afternoon.

[Sneederbunk]

8. Me neither. But i would have worn plain cap and shirt in the first place.

[ancianita]

34. Yep, it's just to mislead the public who will then mislead the FBI. Guy just change his outfit on the plane.

[live love laugh]

4. He's probably from "the left"? What history is there of "the left" engaging this way?

[gab13by13]

13. Well, if he isn't brought in alive,

Patel will make sure he was from the left.

[ancianita]

35. None. But whoever benefits from this knows that most of the public isn't aware of that, just past antifa propaganda.

[Kaleva]

38. The Red Army Faction, the Weather Underground....

[unc70]

11. Impressed by his skill descending from roof

The height of that building seems about the limit "one" can readily descend. His feet were probably 10-12 feet up when he dropped. He landed cleanly and immediately took off running; no discomfort. I would have wanted my stunt double for that scene.

[still-prayin4rain]

12. And where was the gun?? Both his knees bent. And it looked like a jacket or fabric in his hand.

And who was moving the camera to follow him??

[gab13by13]

14. They are claiming the rifle was in his jacket.

I wondered the same thing, a 30-06 is a long rifle, hard to hide in a little jacket, would need a trench coat. Was the jacket in his back pack?

[still-prayin4rain]

15. He uses both hands to hang off the building though. I just can't see him maneuvering like that with a long rifle in his

hands.

[gab13by13]

16. I put nothing past Stephen Miller who is the head of the FBI.

[still-prayin4rain]

18. Right? And I'm not saying this dude wasn't the shooter, but he doesn't seem to have a long rifle with him at the time of

the video.

[MuirHero]

37. It would be virtually impossible to hide a 30-06 long rifle under a short jacket.

I watched that video clip multiple times and did not see the shooting suspect carrying a rifle as he was running across the roof or when he jumped to the ground.

I have a Browning 308 long rifle with a scope that I use for deer hunting, which is very similar to a 30-06. Even with a much longer hunting coat, there is no way that I could conceal that rifle under the coat and much less keep it concealed while jumping off of a 10-12 foot roof.

If this was in fact a professional hit job and part of a conspiracy, the FBI's suspect could just be a decoy while the real shooter had a much better escape plan.

[NoMoreRepugs]

17. I am not understanding why this is referred to as a "political assassination"

when he held no public office and mostly spewed vile nonsense.

[still-prayin4rain]

19. Totally agree, it's so ridiculous. Social media influencers are not assassinated.

[roamer65]

22. Correct. They're murdered, not assassinated.

[still-prayin4rain]

28. Agreed. Obviously, still terrible, but use the correct word.

[Crunchy Frog]

40. It serves the narrative.

[usonian]

24. Professional, eh?

Apparently the trillion dollars offered at the "summit" wasn't enough. Was this the final warning?

Putin was KGB. He knows how to get nasty things done.



On the "left" in this photo.

[Johonny]

26. Once again, most of these people's political spectrum

Doesn't map well/exactly onto political party spectrum. The Trump attempted shooter isn't clearly left or right and the FBI still doesn't clearly know his motives. Many of these people are crazy. They do have not clear perspectives or often coherent motives based on reality.

For example, Reagan's would be assassin did it to impress Jody Foster.

[drray23]

27. They said it was an older mauser 30-06

Here is what that looks like :



I dont see how it could be camouflaged in a backpack or down your pant legs.

[still-prayin4rain]

30. Agreed, or quickly broken down to a relatively small size as some have suggested.

[NJCher]

36. are you happy to see me

Or is that a mauser 30-06 in your pocket?

[Aussie105]

29. Job done . . .

If it was an individual who did this for personal or ideological reasons, you will hear about it soon enough.
In social media, or when he gets caught.

If it was a professional hit, the gunman will just disappear, and we will never know why.

Second option seems to be operative at the moment.

[Bev54]

32. Who is this radical left they all talk about? Can they name someone who leads or is even a member?

I can name many that belong the radical right, there are so many. What other detrimental events have the radical left been responsible for? Again most of us can name several on the right. This is such bullshit gaslighting.

[Crunchy Frog]

41. They're talking about the Democratic Party and liberals on MSNBC.

They're not talking about any actual radical left.