What I did not see in the surveilance video.

[Codifer]

OK, I am old but vision and mind in not tghat bad a state.

But, I did not see "shooter" carrying the 30.06 in the stills prior to the shooting.

I did not see the "shooter" jump off the roof with a 30.06 rifle. What he had in hand looked more like a jacket.

Try to put a 30.06 in a day pack... go ahead, I'll wait.

Something smells. Or mebbe it is just because krash patel is there.

I am beginning to detect the scent of another patsy.

[niyad]

1. The word "plant" came to miind.

[johnnyfins]

2. Oh. I agree.

Sumpin stinx.

[bamagal62]

3. I'm beginning to think

This was a hit to start something.

[dweller]

4. But they found the rifle !

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[still-prayin4rain]

5. And who was moving the camera??

[JPK]

6. This

This, this, this!

[obamanut2012]

31. The owner of the camera was moving it

After the fact. That is rhe only "normal" thing about this.

[still-prayin4rain]

33. Do you mean they edited the video to zoom in? How can they move the camera after the recorded incident?

[H2O Man]

7. It takes

some time to break one of those down, much longer than he was on the roof post-shooting. The whole thing is suspicious, based upon what is known now. And this administration couldn't tell us the truth if they knew it.

[AZJonnie]

8. Where did authorities say they found the murder weapon?

Was it on the roof, or within throwing distance of the roof? Then there's your answer for that question.

Do we know that there is NO surveillance footage where it shows him with a rifle? Perhaps earlier in the day, or the day before (i.e he could've planted it at an earlier time)?

If we do not know whether such footage exists, then the "way in" is also not yet problematic.

[Bev54]

19. They said they found the rifle in the woods in the neighborhood he ran to

If he was going to leave it behind, I would think he would leave it on the roof, not the woods. It would mean he would have to carry it away with him with all the ring cameras in the neighborhood, just to toss it in the woods.

It seems this shooting was well thought out by a very competent marksman, that is stupid enough to drop the gun where it was sure to be found anyway.

[unc70]

10. Rifle was found in woods across street from parking lot

Very far from throwing distance.

[mackdaddy]

11. TMZ had some video in a neighborhood of supposedly this guy before and after the shooting.

The before had the guy walking down a street on a home security camera. He had a very odd limping gate and the conjecture was he had the rifle down his pants leg which I though plausible. The identified weapon a Mauser 30-06 bolt action would be about 38 inches or so long and the scope would add quite a bit of bulk unless on a quick release system of some sort. I did not see anything anywhere near long enough to be a rifle and watched the suspect jump a long way down and he ran/walked with no limp after the jump.

Also if he was going to dump the rifle anyway, why not just leave it on the roof instead of carrying it a few hundred feet to just dump it in a wooded area.

My dad had a 30-06 deer rifle and it could kick like a mule.

Kash Patel has some crazy eyes.

[hamsterjill]

12. It was my dad's choice of guns, as well.

My dad passed away in 2010 at the ripe old age of 95, but he was a rancher and almost always had a gun with him. The 30-06, which he pronounced thirty ought six, was his choice of guns. He was practiced, and he didn't miss. He didn't use a scope. Yes, it had a massive kick.

Unless the model has changed drastically, there would be no way it can be disassembled. I think your theory of it being down the pants leg is interesting.

Something just doesn't seem "right" about all of this. Maybe once we have more information, it will all fall into place and make sense. But I have my doubts. The biggest obstacle seems to be that we have absolute idiots in charge.

[drray23]

13. Here is what an older mauser 30-06 looks like.

I doubt you can hide that in a day pack or down your pant legs.

[usonian]

14. Might be dealing with a real pro.

Ask this guy.



Did the money offered at the "summit" fall short of the "new" price?. Was this the final warning?

Putin was KGB. He knows how to get nasty things done.



On the "left" in this photo.

Who remembers the dinner with Michael Corleone? Guns can just show up when needed.

[Silent Type]

15. Remove a few screws, fits in a backpack, just like a bomb.

[still-prayin4rain]

17. Does it? An "imported Mauser .30-06 bolt-action rifle"? Quickly broken down to fit in backpack?

[Silent Type]

18. Couple of screws, that simple. And you could probably set it up with quick release if you wanted. So, what do you think?

[still-prayin4rain]

21. I don't know anything about guns. The pictures of that particular gun on the internet don't look like it could easily

be made small. But, again, I don't know anything about guns.

[James48]

24. I agree.a couple of screws and it's quickly broken down.

This was obviously well planned in advance, including the getaway. That isn’t your normal nut case.

With advance planning, I’m pretty sure you can configure a Mauser to have quick disassembly - and put it in a bag as seen in the video when he jumps down from the roof. That’s a rifle bag, in my opinion, carrying both the barrel and stock. It is well within the range of possibilities.

I really think they will never find him, unless they pick up a DNA sample from anything. Otherwise- I’m going to say- it was a clean getaway. Maybe just because of Epstein files, or Israel /Gaza, . Who knows.

[AZJonnie]

29. I'm sure they'll find him, they may have already

As for whether or not the public finds OUT they found him (and when), that could be a little more dicey. Depends on who he was (note the use of past tense). The longer he's "on the run", the longer they drag out the story, distract from other problems, stir up wingnut anger, and plant stories like "they haven't found him cause THE DEEP STATE is hiding him!!!11!".

He could well be of more use to the regime missing for a good while. Then just when interest starts to flag and life gets more back to normal? Boom, found him. And guess what? Liberal Whackadoodle with TDS!

What's that, "who is he"? We can't tell you, we don't want him to have a "platform" plus the liberal crazies will take up his cause and kill every Republican in their sleep if we do!

[Aussie105]

16. LOL People are still uncertain if Lee Harvey Oswald

was a lone nutcase or part of a larger group that plotted that particular assassination.

Rest assured though, Trump and his band of merry men will be sure it was a left winger, and use it to crack down on free speech and unrestricted movement in some way.

[relayerbob]

20. No, what he had jumping off the roof

Was something long and rigid inside of a loose bag of some sort. And he was clearly concerned about not losing it. You are seeing what you want to see, he had the rifle as he ran away.

And this was clearly planned, so he might have already put the rifle on the roof or stashed somewhere in the building.

[still-prayin4rain]

22. He was determined to take it so he could drop in the woods?

On edit: I found a zoomed in version of the video and I can actually see what you mean.

[AdamGG]

23. Sometimes there are odd details like this

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Like Luigi Mangione executing his attack very precisely, but having an instance where he was filmed with his mask off. The shooter could be someone who is skilled using a rifle, but not a trained assassin and makes a weird choice like carrying the rifle off the roof to dump in the woods when it would have been easier to just leave on the roof.

I'm not minimizing Trump/Patel using this as a Reichstag fire or that they even could have staged this for that purpose. But, carrying the gun to the woods before dumping it isn't necessarily a suspicious detail. If someone who isn't a professional does something extreme like this, their adrenaline has to be jacked and doing it must feel surreal - they might make a strange choice in the moment.

[AZJonnie]

27. Totally reasonable and yes these mistakes are common

I don't think it means anything either.

[relayerbob]

34. Yes, so he could hide it

Professional, he was not.

[C Moon]

25. The guy in the photos looked like he may have had a prosthetic leg (right side).

The guy jumping from the building didn't.

[AZJonnie]

26. Or maybe a barrel and stock strapped to his leg under his pants?

I've not seen that video so I don't know if possible, but could it be an explanation?

[C Moon]

28. I guess it's the same guy. They said he was wearing Converse shoes in the photos.

The area where he jumped from the roof, they found Converse style shoe prints. He must have been in his 20s, because a jump like that in Converse shoes would be painful.

[C Moon]

30. Here's the photo I'm referring to (there's something strange with his right leg). I'm sure others have noticed:

[Vinca]

32. That's what I've been wondering, too. I would assume a rifle shooting a target that far away

would have a pretty long barrel. That wasn't a terribly easy shot and the guy had to have had a weapon that would be precise. When he jumped off the roof, it didn't really look like he had anything other than his backpack and a jacket. How did the gun get in the woods? Maybe this guy is just a student who thought it would be a good place to watch. Maybe the shooter was inside the building shooting out a window.