Apparently the shooter is a homophobic magat.

[rubbersole]

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Just from the "engraved" bullet casings. It will take a few days to get past the official spin an self-congratulations expected from these clowns. If the family hadn't turned him in he probably would not be in custody.

[chelsea0011]

1. This presser is less about

information and more a memorial service. “See you on Valhalla “ from Kash Patel where he will meet Charlie Kirk when he dies? Valhalla is not a Heaven, but a place to gather before the final battle.

[Solly Mack]

2. I laughed when he said that about Valhalla.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. I don't know it by I choose to believe Valhalla has a minimum height requirement.

[Solly Mack]

8. It certainly has a warrior requirement. Running your mouth does not a warrior make.

You'd think Patel would not have suggested Kirk was not in heaven. Can't go to both.

[TommyT139]

9. I was surprised, but didn't think it funny

It goes to their whole worldview of this being a cosmic battle, with them the valiant soldiers.

Imagery is powerful.

[Solly Mack]

13. I get what they think but to suggest Kirk was not in heaven caused me to laugh.

If he's in Valhalla, he ain't in heaven.

Not that I believe in either.

[TommyT139]

24. Good point...

On the other hand, many -- especially the "white power" sorts -- would say that ending up in Valhalla is better than going to Christian Heaven, which would be more analogous to what Norther Tradition folks call the "grass death," for people who don't die in battle.

I do get the juxtapositionw with Kirk's self-proclaimed faith language...but that is precisely what makes Kash Patel's comments stick out as more meaningful.

[Solly Mack]

41. True. The whole Norse/Odin embrace has long been a part of white supremacist/nationalist groups.

[yardwork]

31. Same here. It's not a good look.

The head of the FBI sounds like a kid cosplaying white supremacism.

[Biophilic]

35. That's because he is cosplaying white supremacism.

[yardwork]

36. Yeah. Sigh.

Argh.

[TommyT139]

44. I wish it was cosplay. I think it's not....

...plus he might feel he has something to "prove" as someone who's a nonwhite child of Gujarati immigrants from Africa.

[LeftInTX]

48. I don't even know WTF Vahalla is, but there is a street with that name in town.

The street is about 50 years old, so I don't think the street was named as part of a cosplay.

I always thought it was some NA word or something.

Oh well, if Valhalla isn't heaven, i guess they know where Kirk isn't going???

I assume they were talking about Kirk...

[yardwork]

49. Google Valhalla.

It's related to Norse mythology, which is a thing with many white supremacists.

There's a whole sub-culture dedicated to Norse mythology among white supremacists.

AND it's a popular theme among gamers, who may or may not follow white supremacist beliefs.

What it is is a very dumb and childish thing for the head of the FBI to say.

[LeftInTX]

52. Will Trump also say this?

This is getting interesting....

"Kirk has gone to Valhalla"...

What happened to "he's with Jesus"???

[yardwork]

55. Good question.

We're in uncharted territory.

[chelsea0011]

25. So did I

And then I did, what did he just say?

[Solly Mack]

42. Patel is... I don't know what. Lots of adjectives and nouns. None of them good.

[BoRaGard]

38. Backwards is: Alla hlav

repubes are obviously on their knees for alla

who knew?

[Oneironaut]

34. God they're so cringe. I'm sorry, but, the failed seriousness is so funny.

[yardwork]

37. Funny weird, not funny haha to me.

[Bev54]

68. And full of self praise, in an "historical" (Patel) investigation even though they did not "catch" him, he turned

himself in after being encouraged to do so by family and friends.

[Liberal In Texas]

3. The engraved casings were manufacturers IDs.

[Bettie]

7. I'm not a gun person and

even I knew that there were manufacturers markings on ammunition.

But, I am known among my family and friends for the weird trivia that my brain decides to hold on to!

[Renew Deal]

12. There is new information today about other messages

Something about catching fascists, and another one that sounds homophobic if it's described accurately.

[MichMan]

30. Manufacturers put homophobic statements on ammunition?

What manufacturer?

[jeffreyi]

4. The bullet casings were engraved?

Or manufacturing stamps?

[Celerity]

10. According to Gov. Cox, the family friend said Robinson had become "more political" in recent years. The engravings on

his bullet casings included phrases like “Hey, fascist! Catch!,” “If you read this you are gay lmao” and “Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao.”

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-tyler-robinson-1236514694/

Bella ciao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

"Bella ciao" (Italian pronunciation: [ˈbɛlla ˈtʃaːo]) is an Italian song dedicated to the partisans of the Italian resistance, who fought against the occupying troops of Nazi Germany and the collaborationist Fascist forces during the liberation of Italy.

[herding cats]

26. Did the arrows stand for the Bella Ciao?

I didn't understand the meaning of them.

[Celerity]

32. I am totally guessing here but 3 down arrows (I need to see the engravings to see if they match) may reference this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Arrows

The Three Arrows (German: Drei Pfeile) is a political symbol associated with the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), used in the late history of the Weimar Republic. First conceived for the SPD-dominated Iron Front as a symbol of the social democratic resistance against Nazism in 1932, it became an official symbol of the Party during the November 1932 German federal election, representing their opposition towards monarchism, Nazism, and communism.

Since its inception, the symbol has been used in many different contexts by a variety of anti-fascist, social democratic and socialist organisations.

MSNBC just said the other arrows (apart from the 3) mean 'total destruction' in video game culture.

[herding cats]

43. Thanks for that

I learned something new.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

46. I always learn something new...

...from Celerity's posts.

[WarGamer]

50. Thanks for the reality check, Celerity... more than a few need to read it.

[LeftInTX]

56. I've seen the down arrows as an avatar on DU.

It's the avatar of a DU member who passed away a few years ago.

[Celerity]

60. yes, it is a well known anti-fascist logo

[jmbar2]

57. I know nothing of bullet casings - how do you write a message on them? Are they large enough for a sharpie?

If he had them engraved, seems like bullet engravers would know a lot about potential terrorists planning symbolic violence.

[LeftInTX]

63. It's been a thing since Luigi

Maybe before that, but Luigi put words like "Deny, Defend, Dispose" on the casings with a sharpie.

That's the first I heard of this.

[jmbar2]

67. Clearly ideology-based killing to do that

Not that it would have been anything else, given the target.

[LeftInTX]

70. I'm now reading that it's this

https://www.moviemaker.com/charlie-kirk-helldivers/

Link to tweet

I don't play games so I don't know WTF this means.

[Celerity]

71. Yes, TY, it appears to be that gamer meme. I stressed I needed to see the markings first and was just making a guess

[LeftInTX]

72. And Bella Caio may simply be from the Netflix series Money Heist

&t=1s&ab_channel=StillWatchingNetflix

And who knows, it may be in video games. It is a popular tune.

Apparently according to Reddit in a video game called FarCry 6

https://www.reddit.com/r/farcry/comments/pi7s7i/does_anyone_know_the_name_of_the_song_thats/

It is a well known song, but the reason 20year old kids know it is Far Cry. Much like my generation knows Ride of the Valkyres due to Bugs Bunny.

TBH: I just assumed it was an Italian folk song. I never knew the significance or anything...

It's like mariachi or Tejano music. I don't know what the heck most of it is about, but it's super ubiquitous here. It's everywhere. Some Tejano music is about drugs, but I couldn't tell you if it was a song about drugs or love because I don't understand much Spanish, let alone understand lyrics to music.

[Seeking Serenity]

64. According to my Zoomer son,

They are a video game controller input for a bomb tactic in the game "Hell Diver 2" (up, right, down, down, down)

[yardwork]

33. Schizophrenia can emerge in young adulthood.

I have no idea, but those messages - if the whole engraving on bullets thing is true - sound unhinged.

[Wiz Imp]

51. Those seem like awfully long phrases to fit on a casing.

[Liberal In Texas]

15. Makers marks

You mean the utterly normal factory shell casing markings stamped onto any bog standard shell casings of normal, readily available and utterly unmodified ammo from any of a million American retail places and online stores.
bsky.app/profile/adam...

— Idiokratie (@idiokratie.bsky.social) 2025-09-12T14:17:36.711Z

[Melon]

20. No. Someone had engraved messages on the case

[herding cats]

21. No he engraved them with dumb shit.

See my post below. I heard this from Cox during the presser.

[herding cats]

17. Engraved.

I didn't understand what was on them all but the last one was homophobic.

It said, "if you're reading this you're @ay. LMAO"

CNN has this excerpt:

“Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read ‘Hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch, exclamation point. Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol and three down arrow symbols,’” Cox said.

[JI7]

5. The shooter kind of looks like Charlie Kirk

At least one pic I saw of him. A less funny looking version of Kirk.

[democratsruletheday]

11. geeky?

I shouldn't label but....he is

[JI7]

19. The pic at this link

The one where he has a bit of a smile

https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1nf3vja/22_year_old_tyler_robinson_identified_as_official/

[UpInArms]

40. Seems he was raised in a

Good Cristian gun toting right wing Republican family … and pop was a minister, to boot!

[QueerDuck]

66. With a proportional tooth to gum ratio?

[Heidi]

14. Have fun with the self-own, suckers.

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

[TheProle]

23. removed

[Crunchy Frog]

27. Sorry, not what I intended. I'll delete the post.

[TheProle]

28. Thanks

[Celerity]

18. IF the reports of the engravings are accurate, your framing is not going to hold up.

[egduj]

22. You don't think "fascist catch" is a common manufacturer stamp?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

29. Yeah, I took...

...the "if you read this you're gay LMAO" as "ha ha Charlie Kirk, you're actually gay"

[lostincalifornia]

39. That press conference was a joke. Self-congratulating how "great they were" in the capture. Only problem is

the perpetrator told his father, and it was his father who turned him in. Nothing to do with the clown show, who only a day or two earlier were professing they had the killer, only to retract that they didn't.

[Scrivener7]

45. This guy was right wing. They appear to have reached the "eat your own" phase.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

47. Where are you getting that he's right wing?

I've never seen/heard of a right winger saying they hate Charlie Kirk or using/writing anti-fascist words.

[Scrivener7]

53. Last I looked, homophobia is a republican family value.

Also, it looks like he donated money to Cankles's campaign:
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=tyler+robinson&contributor_city=St+george&contributor_state=UT

[rubbersole]

58. Post #19 above has a link to pictures of him wearing a tsf tee shirt.

A couple of days from now there will be a better profile of this guy. I somehow doubt that he had Jesus in his heart (even though it's being reported that his dad is a minister).

[Wiz Imp]

61. I'm pretty sure the person in the Team Trump shirt in that post is Kirk himself.

[rubbersole]

69. OK. Thank you.

[Wiz Imp]

59. Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk

"hey fascist! catch!" is apparently from a video game called Helldivers 2. It's not necessarily meant to support "anti Fascist ideology" (whatever that is supposed to mean)

[RockRaven]

62. Hating Charlie Kirk from the right? Look up Nick Fuentes/Groypers and Laura Loomer.

[Sneederbunk]

54. FOX to announce war on the Unaffiliated.