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House Dems should drop a charlie kirk gun safety act (Original Post) Marthe48 Sep 2025 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Sep 2025 #1
Agreed MichMan Sep 2025 #2
That's exactly what they should do, along with preserving ACA subsidies, Medicare Paygo Waiver, etc. Silent Type Sep 2025 #3
Less of Trump is the only issue in 2026. Frasier Balzov Sep 2025 #4
While an intriguing concept sarisataka Sep 2025 #5
Licensing, background checks, continuing safety education, Lucky Luciano Sep 2025 #6
Define kid - he is 22... lame54 Sep 2025 #7
I'm speaking generally. Not in this particular case. Lucky Luciano Sep 2025 #8
At 22 he is an adult sarisataka Sep 2025 #10
I am just talking about a general law. Lucky Luciano Sep 2025 #12
Sure! Why not? LeftInTX Sep 2025 #9
I'm all for this. marble falls Sep 2025 #11
It would go nowhere because... skypilot Sep 2025 #13

Response to Marthe48 (Original post)

MichMan

(17,396 posts)
2. Agreed
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:11 AM
Sep 2025

Ban all long rifles. Should be a winning campaign message.

The RW has been claiming Democratics want to take away their hunting rifles for decades.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. That's exactly what they should do, along with preserving ACA subsidies, Medicare Paygo Waiver, etc.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:18 AM
Sep 2025

But not just write a Bill, they have to get out and promote it big time. Develop a Democratic Project 2026/2028.

They won't though. We'll be sitting here next year before midterms still criticizing trump but offering no change that appeals to voters.

Frasier Balzov

(5,106 posts)
4. Less of Trump is the only issue in 2026.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:03 PM
Sep 2025

Those votes are waiting to be claimed and cast.

I truly believe they are sufficient in number to flip Congress Democratic, provided there are Democratic Party candidates on the ballot.

sarisataka

(22,837 posts)
5. While an intriguing concept
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:08 PM
Sep 2025

what would be in this Act?

A bolt action .30-06 is perhaps the most typical hunting rifle; the type weapon (almost) no one says they want to take away.

Lucky Luciano

(11,875 posts)
6. Licensing, background checks, continuing safety education,
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:57 PM
Sep 2025

..,perhaps liability insurance requirements…assault weapon bans.

Parents on the hook if their kids do bad things with their guns.

lame54

(40,107 posts)
7. Define kid - he is 22...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:01 PM
Sep 2025

If a 60 year old guns somebody down is his 82 year father going away?

sarisataka

(22,837 posts)
10. At 22 he is an adult
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:05 PM
Sep 2025

When does parents responsibility end for crimes done by their children?

I think it would be a tough sell to shove an assault rifle ban into an act in response to a shooting where an assault rifle was not used.

Lucky Luciano

(11,875 posts)
12. I am just talking about a general law.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:20 PM
Sep 2025

The kid didn’t even use an assault weapon, but I am saying to ban those as part of any bill. Also, as for being a generic bill, of course the parents in this case are not responsible, but would be in many other cases…usually in school shootings.

Naming it the “Charlie Kirk bill” is obviously just trolling, but reasonable bills should be passed.

skypilot

(9,143 posts)
13. It would go nowhere because...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:36 PM
Sep 2025

...before the Republicans got around to voting against it they would all be "on message" about how the Democrats were exploiting Kirk's death to advance their "agenda". This would be repeated daily by everyone in the MAGAverse and ultimately Republicans would have no reservations about voting against the proposed bill.

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