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kentuck

(115,622 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:48 PM Sep 2025

The Democrats own it...

What do they own?

There were several well-known Republicans that flew off the handle when they heard that Charlie Kirk has been assassinated. Not knowing any facts, they declared that the "Democrats own it".

Excuse us while we wipe the egg from our faces.

It turns out that the shooter and his family are big Donald Trump supporters. They are Utah Republicans. They are Mormon. You can't get much more Republican than that.

The shooter was a MAGA.

Let's try to process all that.

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The Democrats own it... (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2025 OP
He was also a member of an opposing right wing group Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #1
MAGAs are going to say he's a one-off.. agingdem Sep 2025 #10
They never take responsibility for their words and the damage they cause Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #11
No ... I didn't weep or care because UpInArms Sep 2025 #27
They are going to completely forget this guy, like they have the Butler PA guy. RockRaven Sep 2025 #2
Utah governor story is that shooter had boyfriend roommate who was transitioning to female lostnfound Sep 2025 #36
Well, if there is a transexual involved...? kentuck Sep 2025 #37
GOP is scrambling to find any angle to spin it away from rightwing hate turning on itself lostnfound Sep 2025 #38
Trump better call on his Fox "News" team of consultants democrank Sep 2025 #3
Probably forging "Antifa" credentials for him as we speak. GopherGal Sep 2025 #8
We don't need no stinkin' "rock solid way" to blame the Dems. It's simple: RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #29
Orange Bastard doesn't give a fucking shit about his dead MAGA sycophant. Piss on those fucking turds. SoFlaBro Sep 2025 #4
He's already moved on catchnrelease Sep 2025 #16
Orange Bastard is a piss-soaked, shitstained motherfucker. SoFlaBro Sep 2025 #17
So trump wants the death penalty for one of his voters? Omnipresent Sep 2025 #5
Not much to process. Nutters gonna nut...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2025 #6
Charlie was hoist by his own petard over and over. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #7
We are going to see more of this from the far right MaineBlueBear Sep 2025 #9
Classic Republican M.O..... popsdenver Sep 2025 #12
I apologize to Vlad "The Impaler" Putin. He appparently didn't set this up. The perpetraror was caught. Unprofessional. usonian Sep 2025 #13
You had me at awesome pickup truck My friend BOSSHOG Sep 2025 #15
I am not a car afficionado. I can only afford the one little Forester, but that's out of this world great. usonian Sep 2025 #18
A right wing civil war mountain grammy Sep 2025 #20
Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if everyone had one of those trucks? (who wanted one, of course) usonian Sep 2025 #22
"Old pick-up truck envy" has to include "old car envy". rubbersole Sep 2025 #25
I think I spotted a Cobra (the automotive kind) on the highway the other day. usonian Sep 2025 #28
IIRC The Sunbeam came with a Ford 260 cid option at one point. rubbersole Sep 2025 #30
yes, the 260 was shoe-horned into the chassis. usonian Sep 2025 #32
I just Googled "Get Smart Cars". rubbersole Sep 2025 #31
If you didn't care about having clean air MichMan Sep 2025 #34
No mention of the internals. usonian Sep 2025 #35
* APOLOGY ACCEPTED * ffr Sep 2025 #14
You should see the AltRight boards right now (not MAGA shit, the hardcores). This is the start of their war Cheezoholic Sep 2025 #19
He's a Groyper. This is tribal warfare underpants Sep 2025 #26
Trump owns it! Emile Sep 2025 #21
Nazi on Nazi crime Farmer-Rick Sep 2025 #23
K&R spanone Sep 2025 #24
Important to name them with the statement that PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2025 #33

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
10. MAGAs are going to say he's a one-off..
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:25 PM
Sep 2025

burying the fact that most of the mass murders are white Christians and Trump cultists..but what really pisses off the MAGA assholes is/was our reaction to Kirk's shooting...yes, we acknowledged no one should die at the end of a gun (that includes trash like Kirk) but then we took a page out Charlie's playbook...we didn't weep/we didn't care because Charlie didn't shed a tear or care when...

*Black church members were gunned down in Charlotte
*Latino shoppers were gunned down in El Paso
*Gay club revelers were gunned down in Orlando
*Eldery Jews were gunned down in Pittsburgh
*School children were gunned down in Uvalde/SandyHook/Parkland/Minneapolis
*State representatives were gunned down in Minneapolis
*CDC employees were gunned down in Atlanta
*Diners were gunned down in Boulder

and we offer the same "thoughts and prayers'' to the family...

Keepthesoulalive

(2,414 posts)
11. They never take responsibility for their words and the damage they cause
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:31 PM
Sep 2025

They always change the narrative and the beat goes on.

UpInArms

(55,353 posts)
27. No ... I didn't weep or care because
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:31 PM
Sep 2025

Charlie said it was worth dying for gun bumpers to shoot up pubic venues ..
Schools, churches, stores, gatherings…

He said not to have empathy because that made people weak

RockRaven

(19,749 posts)
2. They are going to completely forget this guy, like they have the Butler PA guy.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:53 PM
Sep 2025

The shooting will remain part of the RW lore, the shooter disappears from their minds and words like a fart in the wind.

lostnfound

(17,630 posts)
36. Utah governor story is that shooter had boyfriend roommate who was transitioning to female
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:46 PM
Sep 2025

And that the shooter and his family didn’t have the same ideology.
It’s bullshit but that’s what’s queueing up in the spin machine.

kentuck

(115,622 posts)
37. Well, if there is a transexual involved...?
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:51 PM
Sep 2025

...that must mean he was a "Democrat", even though he is a Mormon, and donated to Trump campaign? He became "radicalized" by the "radical left"? That is what we are supposed to believe? In my opinion, it takes a warped individual to kill someone, regardless of ideology. The young man said he would rather commit suicide than turn himself in. It seems he has some deep emotional and psychological problems that were never addressed.

lostnfound

(17,630 posts)
38. GOP is scrambling to find any angle to spin it away from rightwing hate turning on itself
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 01:48 PM
Sep 2025

There are a thousand ticking time bombs in the US, I’d guess.

They know “we” won’t believe it, but memes are going around and slop like this in the NY Post are busy spinning the story.

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

The stuff about the supposed trans roommate is just a lot of innuendo; not facts.

democrank

(12,680 posts)
3. Trump better call on his Fox "News" team of consultants
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:02 PM
Sep 2025

to see if anyone can come up with a rock-solid way to blame this murder on those awful, awful Democrats. MAGAs are top-notch reality benders so it might work.

GopherGal

(2,952 posts)
8. Probably forging "Antifa" credentials for him as we speak.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:22 PM
Sep 2025

Second Lieutenant in the "Antifa Army of Utah" or some such nonexistent organization.

Faking up some sort of funds transfer from Hunter Biden. Or Soros. It's always Soros.

RVN VET71

(3,216 posts)
29. We don't need no stinkin' "rock solid way" to blame the Dems. It's simple:
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:39 PM
Sep 2025

Democrats are communist assassinators and atheists so they killed Charlie Kirk. Period.

What more evidence do you need. And don't give me any of that left-wing jazz about the killer being a Mormon and Trump supporter because so what?

SoFlaBro

(3,808 posts)
4. Orange Bastard doesn't give a fucking shit about his dead MAGA sycophant. Piss on those fucking turds.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:03 PM
Sep 2025

catchnrelease

(2,164 posts)
16. He's already moved on
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:05 PM
Sep 2025

This morning he's on to bragging about his new ballroom. Charlie who??

Irish_Dem

(82,318 posts)
7. Charlie was hoist by his own petard over and over.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:16 PM
Sep 2025

The MAGA cult owns this lock stock and barrel.

MaineBlueBear

(457 posts)
9. We are going to see more of this from the far right
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:24 PM
Sep 2025

As they realize Trump and his minions are weakening their freedoms they'll turn on them.

popsdenver

(2,628 posts)
12. Classic Republican M.O.....
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:47 PM
Sep 2025

ANYTHING, and every single last thing spewed from ANY/ALL Republican's mouths is 100%:

Always a flagrant lie

Always blatantly Hypocritical

Always 180 degrees from the Truth or Reality..........

AND 95+% of all U.S. main steam media is owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans and/or Republican Corporations.............

usonian

(26,589 posts)
13. I apologize to Vlad "The Impaler" Putin. He appparently didn't set this up. The perpetraror was caught. Unprofessional.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:49 PM
Sep 2025

But if it's a right wing civil war ....

fought with non-lethal weapons



Perhaps the Trump Family can arrange a cage match on the former Rose Garden.

P.S. I don't own that fabulous pickup truck.

usonian

(26,589 posts)
18. I am not a car afficionado. I can only afford the one little Forester, but that's out of this world great.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:12 PM
Sep 2025

Been downhill since then.

mountain grammy

(29,209 posts)
20. A right wing civil war
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:15 PM
Sep 2025

with no collateral damage. Maybe they can actually do one thing right?

Love that truck!

usonian

(26,589 posts)
22. Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if everyone had one of those trucks? (who wanted one, of course)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:24 PM
Sep 2025

I had a Tacoma, and small as it was, it was a challenge to park it in tight spaces.

Though, I don't recall any spaces so tight that I had to exit the vehicle through the rear window.

I am going to investigate "old pickup truck envy" as a major cause of world angst.
Maybe I can squeeze a PhD out of it.
I've been looking for places that sell them.
A friend once bought me a ministry so I could call myself a minister (probably for tax benefits) but I lost the paperwork.

I miss having crazy friends like that.

rubbersole

(11,277 posts)
25. "Old pick-up truck envy" has to include "old car envy".
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:22 PM
Sep 2025

Your student body will expand exponentially. Plus, the material for your doctoral thesis would be endless. (Start with - '66 Shelby GT-350 Mustang.) Where can I sign up?

usonian

(26,589 posts)
28. I think I spotted a Cobra (the automotive kind) on the highway the other day.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:33 PM
Sep 2025

Could be mistaken. Just a quick glance, as I was going so fast.

Call me old-fashioned, but I always wanted Maxwell Smart's Sunbeam Tiger.




OOOOOOOH

rubbersole

(11,277 posts)
30. IIRC The Sunbeam came with a Ford 260 cid option at one point.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:55 PM
Sep 2025

The 260 was the precursor of the 289 (which was my real love all through Jr high/high school). That would have been an incredibly fast Tiger. Total KAOS.😏

usonian

(26,589 posts)
32. yes, the 260 was shoe-horned into the chassis.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sep 2025

And please don't mention KAOS.

It is all too common these days.

rubbersole

(11,277 posts)
31. I just Googled "Get Smart Cars".
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:01 PM
Sep 2025

Cool. Don't remember any of the other ones except the Sunbeam. Thanks for posting...made my afternoon. 👋

MichMan

(17,392 posts)
34. If you didn't care about having clean air
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:34 PM
Sep 2025

primitive pollution controls and doesn't meet current safety standards.

usonian

(26,589 posts)
35. No mention of the internals.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:46 PM
Sep 2025

I don't know about safety compliance.

Oddly enough, I got a Datsun pickup long long ago (when there were Datsuns) somewhat because I saw one land on its cab in a James Bond movie with no harm (of course, that was staged).

The point was hypothetical because anything finite of the sort would have to meet current standards.

Before they are degraded further.

ffr

(23,448 posts)
14. * APOLOGY ACCEPTED *
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:56 PM
Sep 2025

Is what every democrat should be throwing in their faces today.

Unless of course, the GOP incited civil war on democrats to purge the nation of Kirk's assassins wants to start a circular firing squad upon itself. In which case, have at it!

Cheezoholic

(3,903 posts)
19. You should see the AltRight boards right now (not MAGA shit, the hardcores). This is the start of their war
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:14 PM
Sep 2025

This schism in the far right has been there for a long time and its been spreading hot and fast. I have been hanging out in these hate rooms for over 10 years and I'm telling ya, and not wanting to promote violence in any way, this is a good thing. People in California know that when a wildfire starts most of the time it only stops when it burns itself out. All firefighters can do, especially to fast host ones, is try and protect life and property. Occasionally those guardrails break down and you get what happened to LA. But, like most wildfires, they burned themselves out. This could very well end up being a good thing. Nothing fans the flames of hate as more hate, especially upon itself when it runs out of fuel. The far right may be running out of fuel.

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
23. Nazi on Nazi crime
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:34 PM
Sep 2025

So quick to blame others when it's their own hate groups shooting at each other.

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,690 posts)
33. Important to name them with the statement that
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:11 PM
Sep 2025

Leaders who fly off the handle without measured reason thoughtful deliberation are
Unstable and dangerous for our nation.

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