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mysteryowl

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Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:31 AM Sep 2025

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) mysteryowl Sep 2025 OP
He's not going after only foreigners vapor2 Sep 2025 #1
It that were the line in the sand, it would still be wrong. (nt) Heidi Sep 2025 #9
Thousands of right-wingers loudly laughed, in writing louis-t Sep 2025 #2
exactly! mysteryowl Sep 2025 #4
Yes, and they wouldn't back off even after surveillance footage showed the guy breaking into a second-story window Walleye Sep 2025 #6
+1 dalton99a Sep 2025 #12
Charlie Kirk wanted Paul Pelosi's attacker bailed out EnergizedLib Sep 2025 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2025 #3
Looks like the culmination of all the right wing desires involves firing people off their jobs Walleye Sep 2025 #5
Remember The Apprentice was about Trump firing people. ananda Sep 2025 #20
I know I've been thinking of that. It's sick. I know what happens when people lose their jobs Walleye Sep 2025 #22
As I said before, I see all this firing and targeting of people... ananda Sep 2025 #24
First, they came for... kentuck Sep 2025 #7
Reichstag fire #2. Ping Tung Sep 2025 #8
Meanwhile here's the 'president' of the USA spanone Sep 2025 #10
We are going to have to start writing and talking in code Buckeyeblue Sep 2025 #11
Kick dalton99a Sep 2025 #13
This site is listing people's posts. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #14
These actions make a mockery of . . . peggysue2 Sep 2025 #15
Being fired by your employer Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #17
Unfortunately this is not a free speech issue The Grand Illuminist Sep 2025 #18
Private businesses can, in fact, fire employees for what's considered sensitivity infractions of speech peggysue2 Sep 2025 #19
Democratic Party leadership has got to push back. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #16
We are all Dixie Chicks now... JCMach1 Sep 2025 #23

vapor2

(4,901 posts)
1. He's not going after only foreigners
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:33 AM
Sep 2025

BASTARD

Heidi

(58,846 posts)
9. It that were the line in the sand, it would still be wrong. (nt)
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:57 AM
Sep 2025

louis-t

(24,653 posts)
2. Thousands of right-wingers loudly laughed, in writing
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 2025

when Nancy Pelosi's husband was beaten by a maga crazy in his own home.

mysteryowl

(9,350 posts)
4. exactly!
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:36 AM
Sep 2025

The article displays our situation of fascism.

Walleye

(45,405 posts)
6. Yes, and they wouldn't back off even after surveillance footage showed the guy breaking into a second-story window
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:51 AM
Sep 2025

dalton99a

(95,240 posts)
12. +1
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:06 PM
Sep 2025

EnergizedLib

(3,144 posts)
21. Charlie Kirk wanted Paul Pelosi's attacker bailed out
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:40 PM
Sep 2025

Response to mysteryowl (Original post)

Walleye

(45,405 posts)
5. Looks like the culmination of all the right wing desires involves firing people off their jobs
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 2025

ananda

(35,500 posts)
20. Remember The Apprentice was about Trump firing people.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:38 PM
Sep 2025

He gets off on it, and so do his followers.

Walleye

(45,405 posts)
22. I know I've been thinking of that. It's sick. I know what happens when people lose their jobs
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:49 PM
Sep 2025

ananda

(35,500 posts)
24. As I said before, I see all this firing and targeting of people...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:15 PM
Sep 2025

as a kind of bloodless Krystallnacht.

They can't be seen going after the general public
in a violent, bloody way since many of them are
white.

Notice how they use the terroristic and violent
tactices after the hated groups.

kentuck

(115,615 posts)
7. First, they came for...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:52 AM
Sep 2025

..everybody that did not agree with them.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
8. Reichstag fire #2.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sep 2025

spanone

(142,052 posts)
10. Meanwhile here's the 'president' of the USA
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 11:02 AM
Sep 2025

Buckeyeblue

(6,439 posts)
11. We are going to have to start writing and talking in code
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:05 PM
Sep 2025

James Baldwin has a great essay (If Black English Isn't a Language, Then Tell me what Is?) where he breaks down "slang" used by African Americans. Much of it was to be able to communicate in the face of oppression. I suspect other oppressed groups have also evolved such nuance into their shared language.

I live in a very conservative pocket of Michigan. I rarely even talk politics with people until I feel like I've completely vetted them. If people ask me my opinion I keep my answers vague and quickly change the subject.

dalton99a

(95,240 posts)
13. Kick
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:09 PM
Sep 2025









Blue Full Moon

(3,649 posts)
14. This site is listing people's posts.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:12 PM
Sep 2025

Most of the posts are just Charlie Kirk's horrible comments. They are still adamant that leftist killed him. Start sending in Loomer and Fuentes posts against Kirk. Send in all MAGAs you know. It says it's not a doxxing site but that's exactly what it is.

peggysue2

(12,587 posts)
15. These actions make a mockery of . . .
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:15 PM
Sep 2025

Free Speech.

Which is the point.

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
17. Being fired by your employer
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 2025

for saying things they disagree with is not a first amendment issue.

The Grand Illuminist

(2,061 posts)
18. Unfortunately this is not a free speech issue
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 01:47 PM
Sep 2025

Because it was private business and not government. Unless the departments have union rep.

peggysue2

(12,587 posts)
19. Private businesses can, in fact, fire employees for what's considered sensitivity infractions of speech
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 2025

Had a friend recently fired because the manger didn't like the tone of her voice and content of her answer to a client. She was too blunt, the manager said. She had also just turned 50 and making a very nice salary as the company was trimming away what they delightfully referred to as 'dead wood.'

Yup, it happens. People are fired for a variety of reasons whether the offense is serious or not. Or just convenient.

However, I would still argue that these multiple firings over the same damn subject is part and parcel of shaping the MAGA narrative, a slow but inexorable turn away from free speech. Matthew Dowd, recently fired from MSNBC, said his dismissal was in reaction to the right-wing mob, grinned up by his comments repeated across multiple platforms. The network immediately terminated him.

Pete Hegseth has said he'll be reviewing comments made by military members and promised disciplinary action if the comments were/are unflattering to Charlie Kirk. Not sure how you sell that one since Kirk was never in anyone's chain of command.

Trump has announced foreign visas will be reviewed for Kirk criticism and/or making light of Kirk's death. If denigrating comments are reported, visas will be revoked.

It's this piling on that has such detrimental effects. You may not be able to snuff a candle out on a first swipe. But keep on keeping on and you'll get the darkness you wanted all along.

Ironically, MAGA in general and Kirk in particular have always made a point about revering 'free' speech.

This ain't it.





Blue Full Moon

(3,649 posts)
16. Democratic Party leadership has got to push back.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:18 PM
Sep 2025

The right wing nuts still believe that Kirk was killed by a leftist. They are chomping at the bit for a cultural war. Stating Kirk's comments is highly upsetting for them. I guess it's a mirror for them to see their own ugliness.

JCMach1

(29,242 posts)
23. We are all Dixie Chicks now...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 04:08 PM
Sep 2025

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