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Charlie Kirk is the first school shooting Republicans ever cared about. (Original Post) CousinIT Sep 2025 OP
This seems like a losing argument magasnightmare Sep 2025 #1
No idea how you're connecting these together. Reading something that isn't there? CousinIT Sep 2025 #2
yes...Kirk said victims of mass shootings are worth the price of maintaining the 2nd Amendment agingdem Sep 2025 #4
Thing is that none of the Democratic gun control proposals which I am aware of, Jack Valentino Sep 2025 #7
LOL Mysterian Sep 2025 #5
An actual real time fatal assassination all over the media YorkRd Sep 2025 #3
K&R UTUSN Sep 2025 #6
NO GUNS AT SCHOOL FOLKS!! Nimble_Idea Sep 2025 #8

magasnightmare

(11 posts)
1. This seems like a losing argument
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:00 PM
Sep 2025

I keep seeing this or a similar argument from our side that Kirk supported the 2nd amendment. I mean, the shooter used a standard bolt action hunting rifle. What is our argument here, that we should have a total gun ban, including hunting rifles? This is a losing argument with the voters.

CousinIT

(12,745 posts)
2. No idea how you're connecting these together. Reading something that isn't there?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:09 PM
Sep 2025

It says Charlie Kirk was the first school shooting Republicans cared about. That is a bad thing. Period. Did some anagram produce "gun ban" out of that?

Not a damn thing in there about a total gun ban. But I do know that Dems support universal background checks and stricter gun laws. I have never heard one mention a ban.

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
4. yes...Kirk said victims of mass shootings are worth the price of maintaining the 2nd Amendment
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sep 2025

and Kirk's vile followers nodded in agreement like demented bobbleheads...but when Kirk, a MAGA charlatan, a spewer of vomitus racial/ethnic/LGBTQ hatred, fell victim to gun violence, his true believers are somehow incapable of applying Charlie Kirk's words to his karmic demise...victims of gun violence are worth the price of maintaining the 2nd Amendment...



Jack Valentino

(5,244 posts)
7. Thing is that none of the Democratic gun control proposals which I am aware of,
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 11:32 PM
Sep 2025

would have been likely to have prevented this particular shooting,
which was accomplished with an older bolt-action rifle, rather than a semi-automatic of any type...

ironically a much more suitable weapon for a long-range targeted killing,
than any semi-automatic weapon such as the AR-15 knockoffs-- which are more suitable for just spraying bullets
faster with less power and accuracy than an old-fashioned bolt-action rifle, i.e. more suitable for a MASS shooting
with no particular individual target...

So unless Democrats wanted to propose a complete confiscation program of all rifles,
which they don't and I certainly don't, none of our gun-control proposals
are likely to have prevented this particular murder---

and Kirk's opposition to gun control likely had no effect upon his own murder---
BUT it has likely helped to stop the prevention of MASS murders committed
by owners of semi-automatic assault weapons which Democrats had previously banned
during the Clinton administration, but that ban expired.






YorkRd

(440 posts)
3. An actual real time fatal assassination all over the media
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 05:20 PM
Sep 2025

So far from Jesus but so close to Donald Trump. What an opportunity

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