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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter reading a long article about Kirk in the Boston Globe
I have come to the conclusion that Kirk and his followers were the kind of people who think the film "The Stepford Wives" had a happy ending.
The Blue Flower
(6,584 posts)She's stepping out of his shadow in a big way. Making sure the camera is on her for a change. Emoting for all the world to see. I won't be surprised if she takes over his organization very soon and very publicly.
DFW
(60,423 posts)The absolute LAST thing they're going to do is follow some woman who seeks to take over the leadership of the organization their macho messiah founded. Of course, if she truly follows in her beloved Charlie's footsteps, all she is doing is being a placeholder until the next macho leader steps up, at which point she will step aside and melt back into the background where she belongs. For her to do anything else would alienate a lot of the boys who swallowed his macho line up to now. That might set up an entertaining power struggle.
Ave Carolus, morituri te saludant!
liberal N proud
(61,203 posts)Right out there pouring gasoline on the fire
Silver Gaia
(5,430 posts)I know she is grieving, but that made no sense whatsoever.
chelsea0011
(10,243 posts)to rise up for the coming Christian jihad.
Crunchy Frog
(28,299 posts)malaise
(297,865 posts)This is a business
TexasBushwhacker
(21,283 posts)picked out her suit to wear when he would be inaugurated as Vance's VP. She reminds me of Anne Romney. Mitt wanted to be POTUS, but Anne EXPECTED to be FLOTUS.
Bengus81
(10,358 posts)Queso Delicioso
(209 posts)She's set up for life, courtesy of the rubes and a single bullet. Nice work if you can get it.
valleyrogue
(2,787 posts)She is hardly a SAHM. I would bet she could clearly handle Turning Point USA.
Also unlike her late husband, she actually completed college. That would somewhat undermine some of what Charlie preached.
From Wikipedia:
She participated in the Miss Arizona USA 2012 pageant, which she won on her 23rd birthday, and then represented Arizona in Miss USA 2012,[6] but failed to place.
In 2017, she attended Liberty University, where she obtained a Juris Master degree and a doctorate in Christian leadership.[10][11]
For the record, she graduated from Arizona State University, not just "attended" it.
She was five years older than Charlie, clearly well past the "wall" of 25 that her husband thought women should be married.
She was out of his league.
Scrivener7
(60,063 posts)CharleyDog
(825 posts)Juris Master is a 30-credit-hour master's in legal studies that can be completed on a part-time basis.
IbogaProject
(6,064 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Her grandparents may have come over with the wave of "good Germans" mixed w open lower level Nazi in early 1953 to rebuild the GOP. But someone pointed out the dropped name was Sweedish, and I'm giving up trying to sort that out. The GOP is full of a million or more Nazi-American decendents. She is now advicating hate and protoviolence so I only expect trouble from her. I hope the kids turn progressive and refute all this but only after they are adults.
CharleyDog
(825 posts)I was daydreaming it would be fitting if they identified as "trans identity" in their adolescence/early adulthood.
SheilaAnn
(10,779 posts)kerouac2
(1,519 posts)If I was in charge of the Republic of Gilead, I would do things way better... For one thing, the commanders are way too soft.

bigtree
(94,649 posts)...with a ready audience gaslighted into giving him room to spout his divisive and ridiculously prevaricating rhetoric.
hlthe2b
(114,640 posts)Contrary to popular portrayal, no woman was burned at or after the Salem Witch trials. Kirk might not have seen that as a sufficiently strong response.
yardwork
(69,612 posts)And one man was pressed to death.
Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)About the trials. They put large rocks on him till he died.
yardwork
(69,612 posts)I can't imagine.
calimary
(90,735 posts)The longer it takes, the longer the suffering.
Fucking sadists!!!
BidenRocks
(3,479 posts)soldierant
(9,372 posts)He was pressed to death because he would not plead. They could not "try" him if he would not plead, and therefore they could not confiscate his possessions. He did that so that his family would be abe to keep everything and would not starve. I would call that a hero's death. Think what you like about the witch hunters, but they did have enough respect for the law to make that work. Today's witch hunters are far worse.
yardwork
(69,612 posts)The Puritans were really bad. I think it's just come full circle. That particularly American to stealing from the poor and one's neighbors and cloaking it in Christianity.
cally
(21,876 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,320 posts)You can do a web search like I did and decide which one looks most interesting to you. I'm done reading about him.
DFW
(60,423 posts)IbogaProject
(6,064 posts)dflprincess
(29,417 posts)Charlie and his pals would hate the remake's ending. (Though they'd probably walk out of the movie when they realized it included a Gay couple.)
DFW
(60,423 posts)I only know the one with Katherine Ross. I guess that's the original, since I know of no other version.
dflprincess
(29,417 posts)Had quite the cast, Nicole Kidman, Bette Midler, Glenn Close, Matthew Broderick, to name a few.
DFW
(60,423 posts)I had been spending most of my time here before then, so it's no wonder I only knew of the original. I only remember that Katherine Ross was in it, but I'm sure there wer some other well-known actors of the time.
dflprincess
(29,417 posts)But that's the only other name I remember. Been a long time since I saw it.
Crunchy Frog
(28,299 posts)DFW
(60,423 posts)The last but one to be "remade, who Katherine Ross stabbed to find out she was a robot? I remember she was dark-haired, like Paula Prentiss, but that is about all I remember.
BidenRocks
(3,479 posts)They did a TV show, He and She 1967 - 1968. I remember watching that.
He turned to directing and she continued acting.
They are still together.
BigmanPigman
(55,516 posts)Here is a preview...you decide. It's on TV a lot as well. Two thumbs down from me.
DFW
(60,423 posts)Although, I have seen the remake of "The Italian Job" and thought the remake with Mark Wahlberg better than the original with Michael Caine.
BigmanPigman
(55,516 posts)I was channel surfing and there it was on MGM+. Of course I had to think of your earlier post. I am NOT watching it!
barbtries
(31,346 posts)and didn't know it.
chouchou
(3,293 posts)...Much Ado About Nothing,