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Brenda

(2,088 posts)
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:25 PM Sep 2025

Is "radical-left" violence really on the rise in America?

This is an article from THE ECONOMIST of all people.

On september 10th Charlie Kirk, a right-wing activist, was shot dead while speaking at a university in Utah. Although a suspect is in custody, the motive of the killer is still unknown. President Donald Trump, who has himself been the target of gunmen, pinned the blame on rhetoric from the “radical left”. Assessing political violence in America is inherently subjective: analysts must determine which forms of violence count as political and assign ideological labels to attackers or victims. But the studies and datasets available—largely compiled by researchers whom sceptical conservatives would probably dismiss as biased—suggest that the killing of Mr Kirk is not representative of broader trends.


Might is Right
United States, criminal cases* involving political violence, by ideology

(Can't copy the info on the chart but here's what it means)
black = Left
light grey = Other
dark grey = Islamist
red = Right

It spans from 1990 - 2025.



One paper by Celinet Duran of the State University of New York at Oswego studied political violence between 1990 and 2020. It found that there were far more frequent and deadly attacks by the hard-right than the hard-left, although left-wing violence increased throughout the study period. A separate tally by the Anti-Defamation League, an advocacy group, shows that 76% of extremist-related murders over the past decade were committed by those on the right. Such tallies, however, depend on how extremism is defined and how ideology is assigned. The adl uses public records such as media reports and police filings to reach their numbers. But those who commit violence often leave a messy trail of resentments that defy easy classification, and some are clearly mentally ill.


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Is "radical-left" violence really on the rise in America? (Original Post) Brenda Sep 2025 OP
Just the opposite.... Lovie777 Sep 2025 #1
What "radical left?" Cirsium Sep 2025 #2
you know Skittles Sep 2025 #4
AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! You spew danger! Next you'll say "Tax the rich!" AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #9
Yep. There are all kinds of Radical Right Groups Brenda Sep 2025 #7
NO Klarkashton Sep 2025 #3
Funny thing.... Bayard Sep 2025 #5
No shit. Brenda Sep 2025 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Sep 2025 #6
My previous post with source surfered Sep 2025 #10
Great, thanks. Brenda Sep 2025 #12
Terms are meaningless in the US, markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #11
I'm gonna go with...No? Iggo Sep 2025 #13

Cirsium

(4,111 posts)
2. What "radical left?"
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:29 PM
Sep 2025

There isn't any "radical left" in the US. If someone can tell me where this "radial left" is, that would be great. I'll join them.

Skittles

(172,886 posts)
4. you know
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:34 PM
Sep 2025

the ones that want stuff like....... HEALTHCARE FOR ALL or......TRANSGENDER FOLK TREATED LIKE HUMAN BEINGS!

Scrivener7

(60,075 posts)
9. AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! You spew danger! Next you'll say "Tax the rich!" AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:55 PM
Sep 2025

That's exactly the same as murder!!!!

Brenda

(2,088 posts)
7. Yep. There are all kinds of Radical Right Groups
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:42 PM
Sep 2025

like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Neo-Nazis, KKK, etc.

The only Radical Left I've heard of is Antifa, which is absurd because it's ANTI-FASCIST just like our Greatest Generation was, and they aren't a violence-based militia type group.

Anything else is just made-up boogie man crap.

Klarkashton

(5,422 posts)
3. NO
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:30 PM
Sep 2025

There is essentially no "far left' resistance anymore.
You would immediately be shot or put away for 100 years or at least lose your job if you speak out.
The smart leftists have said "fuck it I'm not giving up my life for shit people that want this trump shit"
And have gone into themselves.

Brenda

(2,088 posts)
8. No shit.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:47 PM
Sep 2025

The gaslighting is so fucking ridiculous. Nobody can name a Leftist attacker yet everyone in America knows the names Dylan Roof, Eric Rudolf, etc. ad nauseam.

Response to Brenda (Original post)

Brenda

(2,088 posts)
12. Great, thanks.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 2025

Maybe people should flood this information into the email boxes and phone lines of MSM?

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
11. Terms are meaningless in the US,
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:56 PM
Sep 2025

and this is on purpose. When terms have hazy meanings the Overton Window is easily shifted. In the 60's "radical left" meant Black Panthers and Symbionese Liberation Army. Today the US reich-wing would have us believe that the "radical left" is anyone who supports a woman's right to choose when to have a baby, supports a livable minimum wage, or supports the immigration that we need to keep our population from declining.

And the bar graph shown looks flaky as hell to me. I'm going to check out the article. The Economist, while a bit right of center doesn't usually reference quackery.

Iggo

(50,059 posts)
13. I'm gonna go with...No?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 2025

I don’t really have a scientific sampling or anything. It just feels like the more we don’t show up, the more they hurt each other instead. Kinda interesting. Kinda scary. And almost funny.

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