Was Charlie Kirk killed by a right wing extremist?

[Playingmantis]

I did some research on this topic using AI and this is what i found

Reports suggest a possible link between the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination and elements of the far-right "Groyper" movement led by white nationalist Nick Fuentes. While authorities have not officially confirmed a motive, social media and news reports indicate that the suspect, Tyler Robinson, had become more political and expressed opposition to Kirk's viewpoints.

Potential links to far-right extremism

Suspect's history: Utah Governor Spencer Cox stated that 22-year-old Tyler Robinson's family noted he had become "more political" in recent years and expressed dislike for Kirk.

Feud with Nick Fuentes' "Groyper" movement: The killing has brought renewed attention to a long-running feud within far-right circles between Kirk and the Groyper movement.
The "Groyper Army" has long accused Kirk of being too moderate and a "gatekeeper" of establishment conservatism.

During the "Groyper Wars" in 2019, Fuentes' followers regularly disrupted Turning Point USA events, challenging Kirk on issues like immigration and LGBTQ rights.

Following the assassination, online speculation quickly connected Robinson to the Groyper movement, prompting Fuentes to deny any involvement.
Bullet casing inscriptions: Investigators found that fired and unfired bullet casings recovered from the crime scene contained inscriptions referencing internet meme culture and anti-fascist themes.
One casing reportedly read, "Hey fascist, catch!".
An expert on extremism, Joan Donovan, told The Los Angeles Times these inside jokes and memes are a way for extremist groups to communicate and are meant to inspire those with similar views.


This could really be a huge story and I hope more is uncovered in coming days. If this killing was done as a result of right wing feud, i wonder if that orange ignoramus in the White House will apologize...or will the FBI cover it all up..

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[Justice Brandeis]

1. Groypers are anti-Israel and anti-Jewish

Kirk was very pro-Israel (though he made it clear that he favored Christian nationalism in the US) but I suspect that may be one reason for the Groypers disliking him.

[womanofthehills]

18. Sounds like Charlie was questioning Israel big time

Charlie Kirk - “they are going to try to ethically cleanse Gaza”.

Link to tweet

?s=46

[Ocelot II]

2. Don't rely on AI for accurate information.

All of this information and more can be found in reliable media reports researched and written by humans. This AI summary lacks some important details. I'd rather not see AI slop on DU.

[womanofthehills]

22. There are many clips on X of Charlie that are interesting

One Where he is questioning Oct 7 - and talking about a possible stand down. It’s all over X right now.

Tucker and Libertarian Dave Smith have been very vocal - calling Gaza a genocide and Charlie had both of them at his big Turning Points event in July in Tampa So some kids walked out when Dave Smith was debating Josh Hammer - but the majority of the Republican kids clapped for Dave Smith. Now more Republican kids are against genocide than ever - l’ve heard 52% to 70% of Republican youth.

Charlie’s big money Republican donors
were walking away from him and Netanyu offered him big bucks which he refused.

As Tucker, Candice, Megan Kelly, Massie, MTG begin criticizing Israel - Charlie was joining them. So many Republicans and Dem journalists now saying they are not suicidal. Anna Kasparian, Kim Iverson, Candice, Tucker - all are on video on X saying they are not suicidal.


This has really split the Republican party. The Dems are split on Israel too. So glad my wonderful NM reps voted against sending missiles to Israel. Hats off to NM Senators Martin Heimlich and Ben Ray Lujan. You guys are the best.

[WarGamer]

3. not going to age well.

[Silent Type]

4. Whatever his politics, and don't think it's clear now, bet he's just another "disaffected" young man looking

for relevance or something in the final analysis.

[womanofthehills]

23. Clips of his politics are all over X today

Last few weeks he was really criticizing Israel big time.

He had so many Republican kids looking up to him - for him to suddenly do a turn around on Israel freaked out Republicans.

Now the news says, others might be involved.

[MrWowWow]

5. Will We Ever Get the Assassin to "Tell Us?"

Speculation is just a circle jerk. Hopefully, a Jack Ruby type won't step in and silence the assassin before we get his full story in all its gory. Maybe an online manifesto exists....

[Ocelot II]

6. Chances are pretty good that his lawyer will tell him not to talk to anybody.

[MrWowWow]

7. Remember when Oswald was Interviewed?

I don't either. All of his interview records were destroyed.
.
The interviewer (Hosty) burned all of his interview notes. Look it up if need be.

Oswald Interviews by FBI and Dallas Law Enforcement:

* No verbatim transcripts.

* No audio or tape recordings.

* No formal written notes taken during the interviews

Only retrospective reports/memoranda prepared afterwards by those who were present.

[Heidi]

13. Talking might get him life without parole instead of execution,

though. If so—and if he were truthful—he could make a valuable contribution to our understanding of extremism.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. "I did some research using AI" is the ultimate oxymoron for the 21st century. Nt

[Playingmantis]

9. Instead of bitching about AI...

Why not look into the findings and see it what it found is true or try to discredit them?

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. So, I should do my own research to see if your AI research is accurate?

[Celerity]

15. +1000

[Orrex]

24. Yep. "Prove me wrong." Where have we heard that before?

[leftstreet]

26. +1

[Ocelot II]

25. Why not do actual research in the first place?

AI is the equivalent of a dog eating its own vomit. It just regurgitates whatever it finds without evaluating its sources or interpreting the material.

[Emile]

11. The killer grew up in a right-wing Christian home who

loved their guns.

[Kaleva]

14. I believe they are Mormons

[Emile]

17. Mormons are members of the Christian faith.

I think they call themselves, latter day saints.

[Kaleva]

20. Many denominations don't consider Mormons to be Christian's

[Cuthbert Allgood]

21. And who made those denominations the arbiter of Christianity?

Mormons believe in Jesus Christ as the son of god. Seems like they are Christian.

[Hope22]

30. Don't they have another guy that speaks for them?

A special book as well? Not being rude, just questioning…

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. Yes, they have other prophets.

Just like "real" Christianity does. The Roman Catholic Church has a whole slew of saints.

[Orrex]

12. "did some research on this topic using AI"

[Ocelot II]

19. I wish people wouldn't do that - it just adds to the slop.

[womanofthehills]

28. All sources are helpful

What I like about Groc is it will give you 10 recent articles/reports/studies.

[Ocelot II]

29. And those are sources you can read for yourself.

Doesn't Wikipedia do the same thing? Even Wiki should be used carefully, but at least it's written by humans and it cites its sources.

[womanofthehills]

31. I do read the sources because I don't trust Groc

Groc often gives a crummy answer. So you can disagree with Groc and ask it to do a deeper search.

3 times Groc admitted to giving me the wrong answer.

Why go to Wiki which is also very prejudiced - when I can get amazing info in seconds- way way beyond the range of Wiki.

[Celerity]

16. de rec

[Blue Full Moon]

27. There's this but MAGA is hell bent on a liberal.

Fuentes and Loomer said that Kirk was a traitor to MAGA. Loomer is trump's alleged mistress and he does what she says.

https://eurweb.com/plot-twist-shocking-new-evidence-ties-kirks-accused-killer-to-far-right-leader-not-dems-who-maga-blamed-watch/