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Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 08:33 AM Sep 2025

People are getting fired for allegedly celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder. It looks like a coordinated effort

Dozens of social media posts and messages about the murder of Charlie Kirk, including some that celebrated his death, are being spotlighted by conservative activists, Republican elected officials and a doxxing website as part of an online campaign to punish the posters behind the messages.

Prominent far-right influencer Laura Loomer, a US senator, and a site called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers” have all drawn attention to people who have posted messages about Kirk’s Wednesday assassination.

The campaigns show how social media posts or personal messages — even by accounts with few followers or from people who are not public figures — could easily be surfaced and publicized, and people’s personal information can be spread across the internet at a time when doxxing is easier than ever.

The Charlie’s Murderers site, whose domain was registered anonymously and which says it is not a doxxing site, claims it has “received nearly 30,000 submissions,” according to a message on the site’s front page on midday Saturday. Currently, there are a few dozen submissions published on the site. “This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of all 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.”

https://www.wkow.com/news/national/people-are-getting-fired-for-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirk-s-murder-it-looks-like-a/article_e890b815-43f8-513a-b2c3-f5d30bfcb5e6.html

Fucking Nazis are after us all. You can't even quote the guy, FFS!

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People are getting fired for allegedly celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder. It looks like a coordinated effort (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 OP
Big Brother is watching all of us. nt doc03 Sep 2025 #1
What gets me is that Charlie Kirk had/has all the benefits of the First Amendment's no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #2
What gets me is...WE (THE PEOPLE) ARE FUCKING ALLOWING IT! maxrandb Sep 2025 #10
Elon Musk bought Twitter specifically to "restore" (sic) free speech Arazi Sep 2025 #3
Businesses don't have any obligation... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #9
Absolutely. My point is the hypocrisy Arazi Sep 2025 #21
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #4
Kirk was a hateful misogynistic bigot. Nobody should be fired for telling the truth Arazi Sep 2025 #6
That was quick. :) I think he raised an interesting case RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #15
They were absolutely spewing rightwing talking points Arazi Sep 2025 #17
I agree, RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #19
Their larger point was people are saying shit online that they wouldn't IRL Arazi Sep 2025 #20
I wonder where are the consequences RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #16
This is huge. The RW is instilling a systematic chilling effect on valid, protected free speech. Celerity Sep 2025 #5
McCarthy is dancing in his grave Iris Sep 2025 #8
Doxing OC375 Sep 2025 #7
If we were smart, we would set up a similar site of RIGHT-WINGERS who were Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #11
And submit JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #23
This is a straight up memoriam to him Cosmocat Sep 2025 #12
How do we fight this?? 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #13
Society is barely funcitoning right now... ananda Sep 2025 #14
A lot pf people are invested in seeing the obvious called anything other than the obvious Torchlight Sep 2025 #18
There's actually JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #22
Who Is.com JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #24

no_hypocrisy

(55,358 posts)
2. What gets me is that Charlie Kirk had/has all the benefits of the First Amendment's
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 08:52 AM
Sep 2025

Freedom of Speech and the rest of us lose our jobs, risk retribution, and "invite" terrorism upon Democrats generally for having our own opinions. They're just words, not actions.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
3. Elon Musk bought Twitter specifically to "restore" (sic) free speech
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 08:54 AM
Sep 2025

And the (in their own minds) suppression of conservatives/Republicans on campuses, in the workplace, media etc has been a big rightwing talking point.

It was always a lie.

This is actual censorship and suppression of free speech

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
9. Businesses don't have any obligation...
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:06 AM
Sep 2025

...to allow free speech. If an employee says something that will negatively impact the business, the business, in most cases, has the right to fire them.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
21. Absolutely. My point is the hypocrisy
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 10:13 AM
Sep 2025

The rightwing bleats about “free speech”! But only when it agrees with them

Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
6. Kirk was a hateful misogynistic bigot. Nobody should be fired for telling the truth
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:02 AM
Sep 2025

Enjoy your stay 🙄

RandomNumbers

(19,263 posts)
15. That was quick. :) I think he raised an interesting case
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:27 AM
Sep 2025

(although it was ABSOLUTELY rightfully hidden)

I will post my response below.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
17. They were absolutely spewing rightwing talking points
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sep 2025

That Kirk was a reasonable person “just debating”…

Fuck that guy

RandomNumbers

(19,263 posts)
19. I agree,
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:49 AM
Sep 2025

I was going to post reply then alert him myself.

Thing is, hidden post's ridiculous example is a bright, shining example of the problem with what the OP is discussing - the rabid reich-wing is reacting violently to anyone merely posting a personal opinion that the reich-wing doesn't like. The scale of harm from the reaction is massively disproportionate to the harm of a simple inappropriate post by one person on a social media account.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
20. Their larger point was people are saying shit online that they wouldn't IRL
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:56 AM
Sep 2025

And thus people get more outrageous (and in the banned poster’s view, wrong, since he tried to point us to “reasonable-debate-Charlie” examples) so that makes it justifiable to create a site explicitly designed to put people in crosshairs.

It’s chilling free speech in both cases - IRL and online.

And doesn’t change my opinion at all that I’ll happily say to their face and online.

Charlie Kirk was a massive jackass whose sole purpose was to spread divisive bullshit

RandomNumbers

(19,263 posts)
16. I wonder where are the consequences
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:32 AM
Sep 2025

for those making threats against George Abaraonye? (this was a response to the post who was hidden; post had claimed this is not a right/left thing - "both sides" engage in online bullying - which might have been an okay statement - marginally - with appropriate context - but then went on to raise an example about this guy I am writing about here, in a way that clearly supported Kirk's views. I think this example really shows the warped view of trying to draw equivalency between someone who makes a mean comment about someone they didn't like who had a bad thing happen - vs. organized harassment and threats)

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/sep/13/president-elect-to-face-disciplinary-proceedings-for-charlie-kirk-remarks-oxford-union-says


He's a young guy who reacted impulsively, and deleted those comments quickly when he learned Kirk had died. I have seen many clips of Kirk that support that he was outright racist. Just because Kirk was well spoken in a debate* only means he is well-prepped and crafty - not that he isn't an awful human being.

Meanwhile, people are actually threatening this young black man. There is a world of difference between posting a distasteful reaction to something bad happening to another person, and ACTIVELY HARASSING another human being.

Oxford says they will treat the accusations against George seriously. I hope they seriously weigh the relative harms of his quickly-deleted statements (miniscule) to the harm of allowing people to outright harass and threaten other people just because they don't like what they said.

And don't forget that Kirk's shooter was much more likely a MAGA disappointed in Kirk's attempt to mainstream TP, than any kind of liberal. (although I stick with the main motivation being the shooter was just nutz from a certain subculture, that hates "both sides" without having a fucking clue about anything).

Celerity

(54,848 posts)
5. This is huge. The RW is instilling a systematic chilling effect on valid, protected free speech.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:00 AM
Sep 2025

MS NOW (MSNBC's soon-to-be new name) sacking Dowd for a simple truthful observation kicked it off on a national scale.

Fuck them.

OC375

(1,103 posts)
7. Doxing
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:02 AM
Sep 2025

Who knew it would get out of control? Doxing has been a thing long enough to get a dictionary entry and even old me knows what it means by now. Hope these folks stay safe. I think this crap stuck societally, and is just part of life now. Perhaps some laws are needed here to make doxing a crime?

Scrivener7

(60,065 posts)
11. If we were smart, we would set up a similar site of RIGHT-WINGERS who were
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:06 AM
Sep 2025

dissing Kirk before he died. Because there were plenty. Loomer for one.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
23. And submit
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 10:58 AM
Sep 2025

Members of the Krasnov Admin. Laura Loomer is another one that I know has been getting submitted over and over again.

Cosmocat

(15,466 posts)
12. This is a straight up memoriam to him
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:07 AM
Sep 2025

Same model as TPUSA "watchlists" for professors and school board members.

ananda

(35,495 posts)
14. Society is barely funcitoning right now...
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:09 AM
Sep 2025

So if we fire everybody who's not Magat,
it won't function at all, in any area.

The insanity is worse than insane now.

Torchlight

(7,037 posts)
18. A lot pf people are invested in seeing the obvious called anything other than the obvious
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:46 AM
Sep 2025

It's an open tell

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
22. There's actually
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 10:53 AM
Sep 2025

A website being hosted by Square Space. Folks are working on getting it taken down.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
24. Who Is.com
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 11:01 AM
Sep 2025
https://www.whois.com/whois/charliesmurderers.com

Information on the site. Have a feeling it's done via a,VPN to make it look like it's out so the US. I'd bet Scot Pressler was involved. He started name people on his FB and Instagram on late Thursday.
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