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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(15,008 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:33 PM Sep 2025

Shooting suspect had 'very different ideology' than conservative family, Utah governor says

Shooting suspect had ‘very different ideology’ than conservative family, Utah governor says | Charlie Kirk shooting | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/14/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-roommate


The Utah governor, Spencer Cox, on Sunday told national talkshows that the man suspected of killing Turning Point USA executive director Charlie Kirk was living with and in a relationship with a person “transitioning from male to female” as investigators continue exploring a possible motive in the attack.

The Republican politician’s comments came four days after Kirk – a critic of gay and transgender rights – was shot to death from a distance with a rifle during an event at Utah Valley University while speaking with a student about mass shootings in the US and trans people. Nonetheless, Cox stopped short of saying that officials had determined the suspect’s partner’s alleged status was a factor in Kirk’s killing.

In comments to NBC’s Meet the Press, Cox said that Kirk’s accused killer, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, was not cooperating with authorities. Yet authorities are gathering information from family members and people around him, Cox said.

Cox said that what investigators had gathered showed Robinson “does come from a conservative family – but his ideology was very different than his family”.

Citing the content of investigators’ interviews with people close to Robinson, Cox said “we do know that the [suspect’s] roommate … is a [partner] who is transitioning from male to female.

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Shooting suspect had 'very different ideology' than conservative family, Utah governor says (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2025 OP
It's all the same ideology: hatred, anger, violence, entitlement, special status, etc. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #1
Do we trust this Governor? Dawson Leery Sep 2025 #2
Me either. rzemanfl Sep 2025 #4
Why publicize this if not to stoke blame onto LGBTQ people? CousinIT Sep 2025 #3
Bullshit, Governor. GoCubsGo Sep 2025 #5
Gov. Cox (snicker...) CurtEastPoint Sep 2025 #6
Why am I not surprised his name Disaffected Sep 2025 #10
I don't believe anything these people say. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2025 #7
I'm sure his family deeply wants to believe they had Phoenix61 Sep 2025 #8
Governor Cox makes an awful lot of ignorant assumptions Quiet Em Sep 2025 #9
The same Gov who previously revealed his motivation to "other" the shooter? RockRaven Sep 2025 #11
Same republican family that posed with guns for Emile Sep 2025 #12
Same conservative ideology, different faction. J_William_Ryan Sep 2025 #13
Right wing sources have been pushing this narrative hard sarisataka Sep 2025 #14
The Guv is going out of his way to repudiate one of his own. Norrrm Sep 2025 #15
especially since his PRAYERS didn't work Skittles Sep 2025 #18
Maybe he wasn't wearing his magic underwear when he prayed RazorbackExpat Sep 2025 #21
I knew people who were incredulous ovr the beliefs of the "Heaven's Gate" folk Skittles Sep 2025 #22
Hey Spence, you should send your resume over to Entertainment Tonight, they're hiring! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #16
so the groyper thing was?? WarGamer Sep 2025 #17
Bull cracky. LoisB Sep 2025 #19
He was most likely named after Spencer Kimble the former President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday- Saints ArnoldLayne Sep 2025 #20

CousinIT

(12,753 posts)
3. Why publicize this if not to stoke blame onto LGBTQ people?
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:37 PM
Sep 2025

Did his roommate somehow control his behavior? Is that the excuse?

GoCubsGo

(35,000 posts)
5. Bullshit, Governor.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:41 PM
Sep 2025

We heard Stephen Miller say that "The crackdown is coming," and that your ilk are going to use this to go after everyone who doesn't support them. You're lying your ass off.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,076 posts)
7. I don't believe anything these people say.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:42 PM
Sep 2025

They’re trying sooooo hard to pin this on the left that they keep reporting false information and bullshit.

Fuck all of these people.

Phoenix61

(18,889 posts)
8. I'm sure his family deeply wants to believe they had
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:49 PM
Sep 2025

nothing to do with the beliefs their son held.

Quiet Em

(3,023 posts)
9. Governor Cox makes an awful lot of ignorant assumptions
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:50 PM
Sep 2025

Take everything he says with a grain of salt.

RockRaven

(19,755 posts)
11. The same Gov who previously revealed his motivation to "other" the shooter?
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 02:59 PM
Sep 2025

So surprise surprise he now says he has evidence of the conclusion he assumed from the start when he had zero information.

Even if Cox is correct, it may not "other" the shooter as much as he hopes. The shooter was raised in a RW environment, where there is a constant drumbeat of using violence/force to "solve" political disagreement. And he was raised as a gunhumper. That is Cox's community, and the shooters actions are the fruit of that garden.

Also, fwiw, Kirk and Fuentes and Trump all have "very different ideologies" from each other too. So what does having a different ideology do for Cox, huh?

J_William_Ryan

(3,582 posts)
13. Same conservative ideology, different faction.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 03:07 PM
Sep 2025

A rightwing holy war, one rightist killing another.

sarisataka

(22,837 posts)
14. Right wing sources have been pushing this narrative hard
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 03:09 PM
Sep 2025

it isn't surprising that a Republican governor would amplify the message.

Skittles

(172,892 posts)
22. I knew people who were incredulous ovr the beliefs of the "Heaven's Gate" folk
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 05:43 PM
Sep 2025

these are people who believe in virgin birth and rising from the dead

ArnoldLayne

(2,265 posts)
20. He was most likely named after Spencer Kimble the former President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday- Saints
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 04:39 PM
Sep 2025

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