Pro Charlie Kirk rally in my small red town

[KS Toronado]

Made a run to grocery store and seen them (about 40) at one of our busiest intersections. On my
return trip home I planned on driving real slow in the parking lot with some one finger communication
aimed at them. As I started getting close to all the pickups with rifle racks and flags flying , I noticed
a number of them wearing side arms and they are looking straight at me, needless to say I
chickened out doing the finger.

Could not believe the signs they had blaming Democrats and hinting a civil war is coming.
Is someone on the right doing "Fake news shooter is a Democrat"?

If it's happening here, how many other places is this happening?

[Irish_Dem]

1. Greatest moral collapse in US history.

The American people worship evil and criminals.
They hate goodness and decency.

[soldierant]

10. Does that make us un-American?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Good question. I guess the new America is anti-goodness.

Evil is the new value system.

[misanthrope]

11. The American people worship wealth and materialism

That has been the case for centuries now. One of my favorite quotes that seared itself into my head when I first heard it over 40 years ago was the following:

“As one digs deeper into the national character of the Americans, one sees that they have sought the value of everything in this world only in the answer to this single question: how much money will it bring in?”
-Alexis de Tocqueville, Letter to Ernest de Chabrol, June 9, 1831

De Tocqueville was no detractor of the United States but the young French nobleman's passage resonated with me because of his status as an outside observer traveling the new nation. If that aspect of our national cultural fabric was so evident way back then, we can imagine it is even more embedded now.

Later, 20th century telecommunications provided an avenue into the subconscious of the average American. It was a perfect tool for boosting sales through advertising. Radio was somewhat effective but it was still akin to reading as it was reliant upon language with the human imagination filling in the rest.

Television was far more effective since humans were fully diurnal, gathering 90 percent of information through their eyes. It was discovered one could effectively hypnotize consumers with visuals, tantamount to pouring gallons of advertising messages and their implicit values into the subconsciousness of viewers. As the last half of the 20th century proceeded, American began to crave more and more "stuff." Average home sizes ballooned. It became "normal" for every person in a household to have their own automobile. We attached more and more judgement about inherent human worth to consumption.

The internet and social media attuned to outrage in order to manipulate emotions has added rocket fuel to the problems brought about through late 20th century television advertising. Our society is tearing itself into smaller and smaller pieces and we're doing it willingly.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Yes but it now goes beyond that.

The US has always been a greedy country.
But we believed in democracy, rule of law.
Tried to be a better society.

Now Americans worship hatred, anger, violence, criminals, traitors, rapists, etc.

We are no longer a country, we are a crime syndicate like Russia.

[homegirl]

33. The DNA of the USA

is made up of the starving, landless, uneducated masses of the rest of the World. I suspect it will be, in the best of circumstances, another ten generations before that overwhelming need for security and success, at any cost, is satisfied.

[Irish_Dem]

34. Yes they will have to destroy everything to realize what they had.

Americans know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

[Traildogbob]

38. Wow, I love that last line!!!

[SergeStorms]

19. Goodness and decency......

are for weaklings, at least as far as these "good christians" are concerned.

The world doesn't make any freaking sense to me anymore.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Being a good, decent person is for suckers and losers.

Get as much as you can, kill as many people as you can.
Money and power are the only things that matter.

[SergeStorms]

21. Exactly, Irish_Dem.

Exactly.

[Evolve Dammit]

26. Drumph's dad (Fred) told him: You're either a killer or a sucker. His older brother felt otherwise and was bullied. nt

[calimary]

36. Well, sure seems like he took that to heart.

And I use the word “heart” somewhat questionably.

[whathehell]

54. Broadbrushing..

not "the American people", some of the American people, which is pretty much like any society, at least at one time or another.

[yellow dahlia]

2. Are there instigators behind this?

Are the signs home made or mass produced?

[KS Toronado]

6. All home made other than the t...p signs

[Deuxcents]

3. We got people holding vigils here, too. I'm not going anywhere near em..my blood pressure is happier if I stay away

I quit watching my local news as they have devoted way too much time to this

[markodochartaigh]

4. There was a candlelight vigil here in SW Florida

I only saw it online so I don't know how many people, but it looked like several hundred. There were lots of police and police officers made speeches as well. Madison Cawthorn, who apparently is going to run for the US House from here was there. He managed not to ram any parked police cars at least.

[Initech]

5. So my town yesterday had a country music festival.

In the place that would be the literal town square. You had your usual vendors selling cowboy themed shit. But then there was a place selling t-shirts that were, calling them appalling is an understatement. One said "Make country great again!". Another one said "We love you Charlie Kirk!". And another one said "Toby Keith: American Patriot".

To have something like that in a public setting where everyone should be welcome, that's insane. Needless to say I didn't hang around for the ambiance. There's more to this country than Donny Dipshit and his shitty news networks.

[MuseRider]

7. Curious as to what town since

I live just South of Topeka. Mostly things have been calm here until I ended up with a Trump sign across the road and a Don't Tread on me sign. I have big trees lol. Things are calm here, I have no idea what the temp is but I do worry about it, SO I was just wondering. Maybe just a hint to location?

Great energy from Topeka lately. I did the LGBT work back in the day and I have not seen energy like this except for women, LGBT and now anti Trump.

[KS Toronado]

9. Hays in Ellis county

[MuseRider]

12. Thank you.

good to know.

[xmas74]

16. Your local university is in the same conference

As mine.

[KS Toronado]

41. Who will you be rooting for over Fort Hays State?

Matt Dillon used to come to Hays City quite often, did he ever visit your town?

[xmas74]

47. Probably not.

I'm in Warrensburg,MO so we're University of Central Missouri. Our biggest claims are someone who won American Idol, Dale Carnegie, Katie Sowers (first openly gay coach in the NFL and first woman to coach in a Super Bowl), Delanie Walker, Jim Crane and Carrie Nation.
We do occasionally have some decent speakers. I've heard Bill Clinton and Barack Obama when he was president.

[calguy]

8. They're gonna do their thing

Until they burn themselves out. Give it a couple weeks until after the funeral.

[hatrack]

13. Last week it was Cracker Barrel, this week it's Charlie Kirk, next week . . .

Dixie cups? Precious Moments? Coal-rollilng? Taylor Swift? A goldfish shortage? Some Tik-Tok video?

Who the fuck knows/cares what incites these redneck assholes?

[LeftInTX]

25. You name it!

[homegirl]

35. Hopefully action

on the Epstein/Trump bromance!

[Demobrat]

23. That's what I'm thinking too.

If it bleeds it leads, so of course the news shows are milking it for all it’s worth. But the funeral will happen, interest will drop off, a squirrel will run by, and Charlie will be consigned to the dustbin of history where he belongs.

[struggle4progress]

17. "Gun nuts ahead/ Proceed with caution!"

[SidneyR]

18. It all reeks of . . .

[mountain grammy]

28. Always gives me chills.

[ShazzieB]

39. Yes, it's bone chilling.

Watching it this time, I was struck by how skillfully this scene was staged and shot. The song starts out sweet and lyrical; the young man singing it almost angelic looking. Then the tension s-l-o-w-l-y starts to build, as visual clues like the swastika armband are introduced. The varying reactions of people in the audience build gradually as well, as more and more people start to sing along and the music increases in tempo and intensity. I love the old man who seems to embody alll of our feelings of foreboding as he shakes his head sadly and refuses to join in.

It's just one song and one seemingly simple scene, but it's used to convey so much. It's easy to see why Bob Fosse won the best directing Oscar for this film. He was a genius.

[mountain grammy]

48. I remembered it in the original play

But the movie version was far more powerful and scary. It’s weird that the song was originally meant to be anti fascist but was completely co-opted by the Nazis.

I recently saw an updated version of the play. I did not like it at all. Just my opinion.

[GiqueCee]

22. Okay, let's break it gown...

... as vile and bigoted as Charlie Kirk was, he didn't deserve to be murdered. I despised the man, and I despise everything he professed; he was rotten right down to his DNA.
But there is NO excuse for people trying to deify him, unless, of course they agreed with everything he said, and boy Howdy, he said some really evil shit. And that's the really sick part of this; those people DO agree with Kirk's malignant rhetoric. They are vile, hateful people, and they deserve to be shunned. They, like Trump and Kirk, and Fuentes and his groypers, are drowning out the voices of decent people, with bald-faced lies and threats to Democrats, and the help of a media landscape every bit as morally bankrupt and malicious as they are. It was one of their own that murdered Kirk, for Christ's sake! and that little turd was, and is, an admitted admirer of Fuentes and his gang of mental defectives who, incidentally, HATED Kirk because he wasn't evil enough.
Then there's the undeniable fact that the voices being drowned out are those of ordinary citizens standing up to ICE gestapo and the rest of those thugs, because the people who we PAY to stand up for us are nowhere to be seen, but for a few brave souls. Oh, they say there are all sorts of things being done "behind the scenes", but no one knows about it, so they might as well be knitting mittens for Bernie.
It's way past time for leaders within the Democratic Party to get some skin in the game, and make their presence known, and loudly. The fate of the nation hangs in the balance, and time is running out.

[LeftInTX]

24. Ugh...there are two in San Antonio. One at Cowboys Dance Hall and the other tomorrow at UTSA...

It's a cult!!!

[Turbineguy]

27. As it turns out, it may be a good thing

Rush Limbaugh wasn't shot. We'd have had to this then too.

[Abstractartist]

29. It's just this easy....

Just quote Kirk himself…..

“It’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.”

And if anyone says anything about that to you, just say… it’s to preserve the 2nd Amendment. Too bad your guy was just one of the “some gun deaths every single year”.

Then smile and remind them that violence is never acceptable, but trouble comes in threes (sarcasm)…

[Klarkashton]

30. Most of them have no idea what that bastard was all about

It's enough of a draw to have trump make a big deal out of it and to come out against "da left" .
They are dimwits.

[KS Toronado]

43. Most repugs probably had no knowledge of who he was

because he always targeted young people. But when tsf instructed his MAGAts to go out and raise
hell against Democrats, there they go! Caught a clip of the Utah Governor today and he actually said
the shooter had a "left leaning ideology". tsf is telling people to lie!

[Quanto Magnus]

31. Even though it came out

that the shooter was a Nick Fuentes acolyte, there are still a ton of people who are blaming 'the left', transgender people, etc. They are not interest in truth, they are only interested in making an excuse for more violence.

[electric_blue68]

32. I still think there are More Deccent people than, the Worst People are the Loudest.

Sorry, you had to see that, KS.
And, sure, unfortunately they're batches of them in most places.

[KS Toronado]

44. Didn't bother me one bit to drive over and attack them

at close range, only changed my mind when I figured out they had armed bodyguards at both
ends of their line. Plus it's hard to intimidate me, so I've been told.

[electric_blue68]

45. Oh, I have No Problem w what you Wanted to do!

Probably a good thing you didn't!

[fujiyamasan]

37. It's good you did not bother giving a finger

It’s not worth engaging in any way or worse yet risking your life in any way. Emotions are high. These people literally have their fingers on a trigger.

[KS Toronado]

46. I'm glad I was able to see the big picture quickly

and changed my mind, otherwise I could have gotten shot.

[valleyrogue]

40. It's overkill here in southern Oregon.

There was a "cruise" yesterday from Grants Pass to Medford "honoring" the late white/male supremacist.

Today there were THREE events "honoring" Kirk.

Link of yesterday's events:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1488826042124920/?active_tab=discussion



Next week there will be ANOTHER "cruise," this time from Medford to Ashland, which should REALLY go over well with the very blue city (Ashland).

https://www.facebook.com/events/1134311758657147/

These people are completely fucked in the head.

What an embarrassment.

[MerryBlooms]

52. Luckily, I'll be done with work before that traffice mess 🙄🙄🙄

[valleyrogue]

56. This is absolutely batshit crazy.

Medford, Oregon, whack jobs are hosting a march "honoring" the racist, misogynist, xenophobic sack of shit on his birthday, October 14. These cultists are pulling the MLK card to "honor" this troll..

Unbelievable:

https://www.facebook.com/events/665570272736279

This past week, many across America are calling for Charlie Kirk’s birthday to be recognized as a day of honor, just like we honor Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Charlie dedicated his life to faith, family, and freedom. His voice inspired millions, and his courage stood as a beacon in dark times.
We in Southern Oregon will not sit quietly…we will rise up, march, and show the world that his legacy lives on.
Bring your flags, your families, your voices, and your love for America. Together, let’s march in unity to celebrate the life of a man who never stopped fighting for this country.
This isn’t just about remembrance—it’s about carrying the torch forward.
👉 RSVP, spread the word, and let’s make history by the thousands right here in Southern Oregon.
Stand tall for what you believe—because silence is surrender.

It is just embarrassing.

[Hayabusa]

42. I have to wonder

how many of the them have actually heard what he's said?

[Initech]

49. It's absolutely insane that the people who were horrified by last week's violence think more violence is the answer.

[KS Toronado]

50. This would be an excellent question

to pose to Rs we know, might calm some of them down.

[Initech]

53. Yeah we could, but it probably won't.

They are frothing at the mouth insane right now. They want blood. They want the killer to conform to their manufactured rage bait narrative so they have an excuse to kill. These people are criminally insane.

[Diraven]

51. Right wing media is all in on he was a radical leftist again

Despite the actual physical evidence. All the new supposed evidence come from a number of unnamed "friends" being interviewed by various media who he supposedly told he was secretly a radical leftist now.

[quaint]

55. My little red city is holding a candlelight vigil on the 20th.