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Sen. John Fetterman defended President Donald Trump in a new interview, blasting his fellow Democrats for constantly labeling the White House authoritarian.
If you compare him to an actual autocrat, that
its just not that, the Pennsylvania senator and Democratic black sheep told CNNs Inside Politics Sunday of his fellow party members calling Trump a fascist. This is not an autocrat, this is a product of a democratic election.
Critics have increasingly directed these terms toward the MAGA White House amid Trumps ongoing centralization of executive power, his immigration crackdown, his increasing use of ultra-nationalist rhetoric, his attacks on political opponents, his penchant for outlandish displays of military strength, and his longstanding cult-like appeal among members of his base.
Fetterman echoed calls for Democrats to tone down criticism of the second Trump administration. Many on the right have accused Democrats of contributing to the spread of political violence in the United States that claimed the life of conservative activist Charlie Kirk earlier this week. Fetterman urged his party to turn the temperature down.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fetterman-begs-democrats-stop-calling-153554197.html
He's the closest we've ever come to an autocrat John. Stop kissing his ass.
Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)edhopper
(37,349 posts)I expect him to jump Parties.
yardwork
(69,352 posts)BonnieJW
(3,121 posts)I know some people in PA, and the dems hate him. The right thinks he has mental problems and doesn't want anything to do with him
Trueblue1968
(19,243 posts)berksdem
(920 posts)And he is toast. Dems cant stand him here good riddance
Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)usedtobedemgurl
(2,044 posts)I contend his stroke messed up his thinking.
Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)All roads lead back to cash in the GOP world.
Traildogbob
(13,012 posts)💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰Every thug is for sell in the GQP. Even little girls. Megan Trainer, All about that cash, bout that cash🎼🎼🎼
LymphocyteLover
(9,825 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,965 posts)Katinfl
(800 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,965 posts)His progressive voting score is 50% higher than the highest Republican and more than 80% higher than the average Republican. Progressive Punch give him a "B" rating which they define as someone "worthy of support".
https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=senate&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down&party
Just because he says some stupid things and goes way overboard in his support for Israel, people think he has been much further to the right than he really is. He has never been the deciding vote to Pass Republican legislation nor has he ever tried to block any Democratic legislation.
I wish he'd just keep his mouth shut rather than say stupid shit like this, but I can live with the stupid shit as long as he maintains his strong voting record.
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Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,925 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,965 posts)edbermac
(16,446 posts)Fetterman has got to go.
Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Even though we saw these crimes played out on TV in front of our eyes.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,290 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Arazi
(8,887 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Someone else did.
Don't blame the victims.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Brenda
(2,038 posts)Instead of your spin that we're eating him and losing a seat.
Why did he fucking stop being the Democrat he was voted in as?
Wiz Imp
(9,965 posts)AFL-CIO Legislative Scorecard - Lifetime rating 100%
https://aflcio.org/scorecard
League of Conservation Voter Environmental Scorecard - Lifetime rating 90%
https://www.lcv.org/congressional-scorecard/members-of-congress/
Planned Parenthood Congressional Scorecard - Lifetime Score 100%
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/congressional-scorecard
Alliance for Retired Americans Congressional Voting Record - Lifetime Score 89%
https://retiredamericans.org/voting-record/
Human Rights Campaign Congressional Scorecard - Score 90%
https://hrc-prod-requests.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/files/documents/118th-Congressional-Scorecard-HRC-2024-Final.pdf
Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights Scorecard - Score 100%
https://civilrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Voting-Record-118th-Congress.pdf
Progressive Punch Progressive Score - Lifetime Score 86.56% (50 points higher than the highest Republican)
https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=senate&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down&party
Heritage Action For America (From the Heritage Foundation) - Lifetime Score 7% (Average Democratic Score is 11% so Fetterman has voted against the Heritage Foundation more than the average Democrat)
https://heritageaction.com/scorecard/members/F000479/118
Brenda
(2,038 posts)JUN 25, 2025 AT 11:01 AM EDT
Wiz Imp
(9,965 posts)He's in positive territory with his approval rating among Democrats. The fact that he's even slightly better with Republicans implies that he should sail to reelection if he runs again in 2028. So he says some stupid things like this which I find easy to ignore. That doesn't change his voting record which is certifiably very progressive. Unlike Manchin and Sinema, he has never cast a deciding vote for a Republican bill or nominee and has never single handedly blocked progressive legislation from passing. Maybe you would rather have another Republican Senator from PA who votes with Democrats 5% of the time or less. Me, I'll take the guy who has a very strong voting record despite saying some frustrating and stupid things occasionally.
angrychair
(12,262 posts)He has voted for his cabinet members and the CR and military aid to Israel and anything else the tyrant wants.
As far as I can tell whenever Democrats vote with Republicans his name is always on the list.
ImNotGod
(1,194 posts)Groundhawg
(1,218 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)"...not an autocrat...product of a democratic election," my ass.
Codifer
(1,205 posts)I will continue to call the motherfucking traitor a motherfucking traitor.
If that offends your sensibilities..... go fuck yerself.
Wounded Bear
(64,300 posts)Inquiring minds want to know.
Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Fetter-man will not be happy.
Cha
(318,946 posts)because I haven't read he's "begged" Traitor to shut the fuck up about the "Radical Left" and how he's coming after Blue Cites.
But, Fetterman is begging Dems to Not say what and who Traitor and his fucking army of Ice Heads are?
Suppose to roll over are we?
GMAFB.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,843 posts)Bukele, Ergodan, and Orban say hello.
William Seger
(12,440 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,843 posts)Raven123
(7,787 posts)dgauss
(1,525 posts)That's not logic, that's stupidity. Fetterman is an embarrassment.
Initech
(108,711 posts)Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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AloeVera
(4,246 posts)Today's autocrats don't seize power by coup d'etat like Pinochet. They use democratic tools to gain power and then start to dismantle them, destroying democracy from within. Corrupting the courts, higher education, cultivating an "us" vs "them" mentality, taking control of the election processes and above all using deception, disinformation and gaslighting. ALL of which is Trump is doing.
All Democrats know this, why doesn't Fetterman? The answer is becoming pretty obvious, no?
KentuckyWoman
(7,398 posts)They are both autocrats by every definition. They even "follow the law", by forcing change to the laws in their favor. By contract, Trump does not have any use for the law. He's not only an autocrat, but also a dictator - now that he's taken to enforcing his own rule through the use of the military.
Even if there are elections in 26 or 28, they will be stacked in his favor in advance... again.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,155 posts)Why waste syllables when "nazi" works just as well?
Cha
(318,946 posts)Nazi sure and Fried Orange Despot.. Fascist Fuck.. etc..
has Fetterman not read how many have Buyers Remorse.. and the Billions spent on his "election"?
Sounds like he's gaslighting again.
roamer65
(37,951 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,177 posts)Activated by Mitch McConnell and cash.
Lots of it.
La Coliniere
(1,922 posts)Fetterman seems to have lost his ability to see things clearly and needs to stop condemning his own party for their commitment to fight the authoritarian takeover which any fucking fool can see is now upon us. He is our new Manchin and Sinema. The question now is, how much harm will his unnecessary comments do to Democrats? Hes not a team player and seems to rejoice in doing the repukes bidding.
Baitball Blogger
(52,314 posts)No democratic election would justify the thing he says and does.
choie
(6,901 posts)you stupid tool! Ever heard of Hitler?
Doodley
(11,883 posts)bigot? Lindsay Graham. Nobody needs to give Democrats a lesson on what we can or cannot call Ttump.
Solly Mack
(96,930 posts)It can't be rape, they are married.
William Seger
(12,440 posts)He's a WANNABE autocrat, chipping away at our democracy to get there funny how history rhymes.
Solly Mack
(96,930 posts)Klarkashton
(5,280 posts)So he spent four years in exile and billions of other people's money to convince weak minds to reflect him.
sheshe2
(97,530 posts)His holding a black jogger at gun point should have been what ended his campaign. Some didn't see it that way.
Democrats Chose John Fetterman Over Conor Lamb. Now There Are Regrets.
Progressives want you to know theyre sorry about that.
In light of Fettermans seeming estrangement from the Democratic Party and his evolution into Trumps favorite Democrat, the left has reconciled with Lamb, wondering if maybe they were a little too tough on the once up-and-coming lawmaker who had shot to national attention by winning a deep red district in a 2018 special election.
snip
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) was among the first to go public with her buyers remorse. After Lamb rebuked Fetterman on X a few months ago in response to a post from his former political rival attacking Democrats who voted against a Republican funding bill to keep the government open, Ocasio-Cortez wondered aloud about where she could submit her Conor Lamb apology form.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/08/07/conor-lamb-john-fetterman-progressive-remorse-00493728
Cha
(318,946 posts)got told how "Centrist" he was.. and Fetterman "was the real deal".. Yeah Not so Much.
Wow.. AOC apologized to Conor Lamb! I read what Lamb said a few months ago.. and so glad to see it.
Mahalo for this, she!
Some of us knew, others didn't listen. I will add that it wasn't the stroke that changed him, this is who he always was, and I never trusted a word he said.
TY, Cha.
Cha
(318,946 posts)knowing that he turned out to be kinda like a chameleon.
Thank you, she.
sheshe2
(97,530 posts)Brenda
(2,038 posts)misanthrope
(9,484 posts)The things said by his staffers would only add to that.
regnaD kciN
(27,633 posts)which would specifically exempt Fettermanchin from the sites rules against bashing Democratic public figures?
gulliver
(13,956 posts)I voted for Harris for sure. But we lost.
Trump is definitely triggering every trigger. But that doesn't mean we have to let him play us like a violin all the time, abscond with our working class base demographics, etc.. We need to get in the game. Trump and Trumpism are beatable, but not if we lose our minds all the time every time he tweaks one of us.
To their credit, a lot of Democratic leaders are starting to get it imo. I include Newsom, Fetterman, and Buttigieg among them and many others.
This bit about calling people Nazis, talking about words as if they are violence, etc., they are frankly childish. But, they are the kind of childishness that causes disaster for the political party that won't disassociate itself from it. Our mature Dem leaders can lead us to a better future. We should definitely let them.
sinkingfeeling
(57,801 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(178,979 posts)when they close my cold, dead mouth.
bluestarone
(22,144 posts)Glad i didn't.
Cha
(318,946 posts)out Dems.
So Fetterman gets his infamy ad nauseum.
Crunchy Frog
(28,275 posts)sakabatou
(46,129 posts)Get your head out of your ass, Fetterman.
orangecrush
(30,193 posts)Turbineguy
(40,045 posts)Reading or hearing his new nick names is the only good part of his regime.
Bread and Circuses
(2,017 posts)We can always count in Fetterman to want the spotlight on Him
msongs
(73,724 posts)Mblaze
(1,021 posts)Opportunist John Fetterman on our name-calling list.
bucolic_frolic
(55,078 posts)is he understands that Pennsylvania politicians have to tack toward the middle if they want to win elections.
niyad
(132,276 posts)is an alien.
Where are K and J?
chiffondior
(37 posts)Quanto Magnus
(1,345 posts)not in politics anymore.
doc03
(39,078 posts)Ponietz
(4,321 posts)Isnt it obvious?
Fiendish Thingy
(23,145 posts)I sure hope Shapiro runs for Fettermans seat.
Johonny
(26,140 posts)UnAmerican, criminals, . . .
Holy fuck, Trump hates us. Listen to him.
William Seger
(12,440 posts)He's a WANNABE fascist dictator working very hard to destroy the barriers, as ALL of them were at some point!
BidenRocks
(3,242 posts)Six117
(336 posts)Nt.
progressoid
(53,163 posts)My problem is that most voters in American don't know what that means.
johnnyfins
(3,752 posts)the party, Fetterman? The problem is that not enough people are calling out this regime. And you are going to scold people who are reacting to what this POTUS and admin are actually DOING? Tell diaper don we all say hi.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,881 posts)Tell your buddy, Donnie Boy to stop calling Democrats names! See how far that gets you!
johnp3907
(4,304 posts)One of these days, thought Winston with sudden deep conviction, Syme will be vaporized.
MissouriDem47
(418 posts)Wikipedia has several pages of names that TACO has called others. It starts with names he has called other politicians. There are multiple names for the 57 people listed. He had four names just for Joe Biden, they were:
Crooked Joe
Joe Hiden
Sleepy Joe
Slow Joe.
There are also several different categories of names with multiple listings under each. The categories are:
Foreign leaders
Media Figures
Groups of People
TV programs
Organizations
Other People.
TACO has had a free pass his entire life but not this time.
TexLaProgressive
(12,729 posts)One of them showed me a very bent wheel. Out of my mouth popped, "Ah, a great likeness of the president. You should send it to the White House."
A bent wheel is tacoed
marble falls
(71,887 posts)miyazaki
(2,646 posts)Eating his own.
dalton99a
(94,095 posts)mountain grammy
(29,017 posts)I honestly thought he was one of us.. a bit eccentric but a good guy who saw the truth in the world. I sure got him wrong.
I wish, since he's so popular with republicans, he'd tell them to back off.
Bread and Circuses
(2,017 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,617 posts)unblock
(56,193 posts)before it's too late.
Sham, rigged, or no elections are certainly a hallmark of an establish autocrat, but it's absolutely entirely possible for an autocrat to come to power through legal, even democratic means.
Even if we were being slightly inaccurate (which we're not), fetterman should first give republicans lectures on why they shouldn't be calling us Marxists or extremists or violent or evil or calling anything good the government does "socialism", etc., before he tells us we need to refine our name-calling.
johnnyfins
(3,752 posts)was TOLD toake this statement. Somebody has the goods on him.
JustAnotherGen
(38,044 posts)He's a shit ass and Im going to call him one.
sheshe2
(97,530 posts)AStern
(841 posts)Resign
milestogo
(23,067 posts)I don't know if its his politics or dementia, but he stopped making sense a while ago.
Figarosmom
(11,912 posts)Trump marches troops into Philly And the residents start calling him.
WestMichRad
(3,235 posts)to stop the orange monster from running roughshod over our government and our country. Yet they seem to be doing virtually nothing.
Justice matters.
(9,768 posts)If Fetterman and company showed a real fight, maybe they could be in the 60s (propose Universal Healthcare, paid maternity leaves, six-weeks paid vacations, and taxes for the ultra-rich back to where they were during President Carter) for an easy example.
Iggo
(49,920 posts)Which is to say: Never.
struggle4progress
(126,116 posts)Fetterman
Where you gonna run to?
Where you gonna run to?
All on that day
So I ran to the donald
He was waiting
I ran to the donald, he was waiting
Ran to the donald, he was waiting
All on that day
dpibel
(3,925 posts)republianmushroom
(22,310 posts)CentralMass
(16,964 posts)noun
a ruler who has absolute power.
"like many autocrats, Franco found the exercise of absolute power addictive"
Similar:
absolute ruler
dictator
despot
tyrant
monocrat
authoritarian
absolutist
someone who insists on complete obedience from others; an imperious or domineering person.
"Eva was an autocratpeople didn't argue unless they had a lot of courage"
LeftInTX
(34,232 posts)"Mr Hoodie"
"Mr Middle Schooler in a 50 year old body"
"Mom didn't teach him how to dress"
"Mr No Decorum"
I say, free speech!! We can call him what we want.
JoseBalow
(9,459 posts)
Takket
(23,706 posts)Jack Valentino
(4,967 posts)OK, TRUMP is NOT HITLER-------- YET--------
but he's a HITLER-WANNABE who keeps MEIN KAMPH on his bedside table!
MustLoveBeagles
(16,310 posts)electric_blue68
(26,850 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 15, 2025, 11:15 AM - Edit history (2)
things recently.
We could remind the Senator about drumphf's "dictator on day one" comment.
No he's not an autocrat...yet. But he loves dictators. He keeps breaking laws, etc, that's an autocratic tendency. He demands fealty. The Senator needs to be reminded of all this.
canetoad
(20,758 posts)But have not said anything. From what I've read and seen, I think JF is a fragile and slightly unstable person. I love eccentric - been accused of this myself. However it's usually not the attribute needed in a politician in times like this. IMO Fetterman is a snowflake whose fragile persona needs the way to be smooth and conflict free.
intheflow
(30,172 posts)to look the other way when Musk jury-rigged PAs voting machines.
walkingman
(10,832 posts)dlk
(13,245 posts)And it also wouldn't be surprising if Fettermans wife and children have been threatened with deportation.
Remember, Republicans excel at playing dirty.
no_hypocrisy
(54,885 posts)I can see my way to start calling John Fetterman names instead.
karynnj
(60,956 posts)When Democratic officials speak of authoritarian, they list specifics. How when for very little reason he sent the National Guard into DC and LA and threatened cities like Chicago and I'm Memphis can he consider calling Trump authoritarian a problem.
He should read Trump's truth social and look at things far worse than "authoritarian" to describe specific Democrats.
Before I clicked in, I thought he was referring to non elected Democrats calling him a Nazi, in dementia or orange. Authoritarian after he concentrated increasing power to himself is ridiculous. He should have simply said that he does not see Trump as authoritarian.
spanone
(141,548 posts)GiqueCee
(4,204 posts)... there is an old saying that you might want to take to heart: 'Tis better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
For your sake, I'd like to think your stroke had underlying side effects that have adversely affected your thought processes. Trump is the worst thing that has happened to this country since the Civil War, and for you to defend him in light of the horrors he has visited upon the country is something the people that elected you are not likely to forgive.
peggysue2
(12,529 posts)Big John is digging his own political grave as a Democratic senator. To call out his colleagues and constituents over name- calling the biggest name-caller in the Universe while the country unravels is . . .frankly, unforgivable. Has he missed what Trump and his Flying Monkey Brigade are doing at the moment? Does he not see the ongoing destruction of basic American rights day-after-day-after-day?
Something happened to this man.
You cannot appease a bully, Senator Fetterman. There was a time you knew that. Obviously, that time has passed.