Due deference to VP Harris and Sec Buttigieg- but these

[Ninga]

past few days have been a stunning revelation to me as I learn the Charlie Kirk story / one that I am ashamed to say I was barely familiar with.
He was a major influence on young voters that flocked to trump. A huge huge influence. Perhaps even the reason trump won. For Harris and Buttigieg to drag up the Pres Biden thing to say it was a mistake for him to run feels hollow and sad and not worthy. To what end? To what good? Fodder for MAGA.
Read the room people. Our country is being consumed by evil and you want to revisit Pres Biden’s decision?
Where was your braintrust while Kirk was having his way on college campuses?

[Silent Type]

1. They are just trying to clean up some "baggage" before planning their next political move.

[Ninga]

2. Your choice of "baggage" is interesting. Who says

it’s their baggage to clean up? Do they represent many others who see the baggage as being an obstruction to their future? Ate there tons of people screaming at protests that there is baggage to clean up?

[Silent Type]

3. Debated over term, but went with it. I bet big money* VP Harris would like to take back "There's nothing

I would change from Joe Biden.” *If I had big money.

[Alephy]

4. Regarding Pete Buttigieg...

I saw that he was asked about it in an interview.

It wasn't something that he brought up himself.

[JI7]

5. Can't more things than one happen at a time ?

What does one have to do with the other. One is about internal party politics and especially with Kamala Harris where she was in all of that. Biden himself had said he thinks he would have won. It's not that serious in the end.

The Charlie Kirk thing is something even people on here don't seem to get. People on this site are still looking for elected officials to do this or that in response to everything.

Do you hear much from mcconnel , John thune and the idiot in the house do much other than make embarrassing comments to defend trump ?

Social media is full of Charlie Kirk types. It's actually a huge grift.

There are lefty leaning ones that people have complained about on here for being clickbaity . But that's how the Charlie Kirk types got attention.

This place is clueless when you look at what is going on in social media.

[LeftInTX]

8. I totally agree. Never hear anything from Thune! And they really don't get Kai Trump

Trump gave a speech at the 2024 Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, focusing on her relationship with her grandfather. In the speech, she characterized him as "just a normal grandpa" and called him an inspiration.[13][14] John Mulholland, the former Guardian US editor, called the speech "part of a politically calculated makeover" while political commentator and regular CNN contributor Van Jones said that "The granddaughter came out and opened up our hearts" and said that she did a good job of humanizing Donald Trump and making him appear "likeable".[15][16][17] Trump herself has said that she was not interested in running for public office, saying, "I just stay out of that and focus on golf".[15][1

As of July 19, 2025, her YouTube channel has 1.18 million subscribers, her account on TikTok has 3.2 million followers, her account on Instagram has 1.8 million followers and her account on X has 898.9K followers.[23][24][25] Following the election, she was highlighted as a potentially important influencer in improving Donald Trump's popularity among the young, and a powerful ally on social media.[26][27]


Just turned 18 and she helped Trump win.

&t=226s&ab_channel=KaiTrump

And McConnell? He's got about as much charm as a bruised, falling turtle! Elected officials have jobs to do also. It's the surrogates who do alot of the rabble rousing work.

[JI7]

10. Exactly this

So you Kai Trump who does what most American teen girls do with the extras that a person of privilege will have .

And then they show the most extremist bizarre attention seeking fools that they pick out among left leaning crowds. And many of these don't even support us (the democratic party). But this is what the casual voters are seeing. That's how they associate our side as losers. Not becsuse of Schumer who they don't pay attention to.

There are so many other examples of this.
.

[markodochartaigh]

15. "This place is clueless when you look at what is going on in social media."

Well, it's not just DU. Almost anyone over 50 is probably practically clueless about what 20 somethings are seeing on social media. And almost anyone over 20 without children or younger siblings is probably clueless about what younger teens are seeing on social media.

Unfortunately social media lends itself to being microtargeted to particular groups, and US society is highly stratified. I'm sure that the techbros have spent fortunes in finding out how to influence opinion among certain groups. The Democratic party better find a way to combat this or we will end up in the skibidi toilet.

[mahina]

6. I think we forget that these people are asked questions which they then answer

Pretty sure that wasn’t a primary message but when you are asked a question behind a microphone, you kinda have to answer it. This is what the man thinks.

The race didn’t go the way I wanted either. I don’t think it does us any good to throw mud at Joe, he did the best he could and I think he was an amazing president.

It breaks my heart to watch his good work being taken apart by monsters. I can only imagine what it feels like for him.

But this is the reality.

[Ninga]

7. The answer is "the election is over and what

decisions were made or not made is in the past and we are focused on the future and well being of the American people” period.
The art of not answering a question is the hallmark of the GOP. We could learn.

[mopinko]

9. harris has a book. she's doing press for the book.

[krawhitham]

11. Buttigieg was asked one question in an interview, Harris wrote a book about it

[Bev54]

28. Yes and the book wasn't written yesterday, context in these types of accusations is important.

[usonian]

12. Woulda, coulda, shoulda are the road to defeat. Why?

Times change.
People change.
Places change, and
Situations change.

Look back and you'll walk into a fire hydrant.

[BurnDoubt]

13. "The Last War"

Still can't win it.

[BurnDoubt]

14. Oh, but we can still bayonet the wounded.

[JustAnotherGen]

16. I don't know about the room

But I'll be reading her book next week.

[betsuni]

17. Evidently Democrats shouldn't write books in case media drags it up while something else is happening.

Why do Democrats allow the future, why let books be published and discussed while current events keep going? Why did Harris allow Kirk to have his way on college campuses? Gross! History is hollow, sad, not worthy -- why don't Democrats stop it?

[JustAnotherGen]

19. I have a theory about that

And it has to do with performative vs. actual change.

Personally? I'm not ashamed of being called an extremist. I'm living in a time of Intolerable Acts - and combatting that requires truths being told . . . good, bad, indifferent.

[Ninga]

20. Clear the decks and bring forth the truths one

didn’t have the courage to speak in real time and during real time events. So let’s bring the truths up now what harm will a kick or two today matter. And how pray tell will the long shadow of faded memory serve the next shoulda coulda and woulda cause we all know those decisions are made by the other guy, not the brilliant candidate of today…

[JustAnotherGen]

22. my sig line

Black Woman Says: You can delete my words, but you can't delete the truth.

I think that books is going to be bought, borrowed and passed around by the 92% like nobody's business.

I don't think a lot of folks understand just how 'ride or die' the Black Women Base of the Democratic Party is with VP Harris.

They aren't seeing us - or hearing us. I mean at a high level - yes . . . but sans the violence of January 6th - we are as loyal to Harris as magapubs are to Trump.

[PunkinPi]

18. If anyone should be allowed to express themselves about the 2024 election, it should be the woman

who endured it.

I have my pre-order and look forward to reading her thoughts.

[dlk]

21. Beating up on President Biden gains what, exactly?

I remember watching a book signing video of Buttigieg, just prior to making his it big on the national political stage. During his discussion of the book, he made disparaging remarks, out of context, about Hillary Clinton. Showing that side of himself has colored my opinion of him ever since.

Petty grievance gets us nowhere and there is currently too much at stake to waste time with this silliness.

[Rebl2]

23. Last sentence

Right on. How does this help us now— it doesn’t!

[dlk]

24. It distracts from the incredible list of Biden's accomplishments

For which he hasn’t received nearly enough credit.

[Rebl2]

25. Absolutely!

[marble falls]

26. We don't need any more division, it's done and we move on.

[usonian]

27. Woulda, coulda, shoulda are the road to defeat. Why?

Times change.
People change.
Places change, and
Situations change.

Look back and you'll walk into a fire hydrant.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE COUNTRY IS BURNING DOWN.
Now is the time for the party to come to the aid of all good men (and others)

These are my most powerful editorials.

Things have already gone too far for business as usual.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220489632

Spoiler:


Yes, there go your beloved books,
AND COUNTRY

The "Sound of Silence" from leaders is going to get us all killed.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20641943