White House Plans Broad Crackdown on Liberal Groups

[RandySF]

Trump administration officials on Monday responded to the activist Charlie Kirk’s assassination by threatening to bring the weight of the federal government down on what they alleged was a left-wing network that funds and incites violence, seizing on the killing to make broad and unsubstantiated claims about their political opponents.

Investigators were still working to identify a motive in Mr. Kirk’s killing, but the Republican governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, has said that the suspect had a “leftist ideology” and that he acted alone.

The White House and President Trump’s allies suggested that he was part of a coordinated movement that was fomenting violence against conservatives — without presenting evidence that such a network existed. America has seen a wave of violence across the political spectrum, targeting Democrats and Republicans.

On Monday, two senior administration officials, who spoke anonymously to describe the internal planning, said that cabinet secretaries and federal department heads were working to identify organizations that funded or supported violence against conservatives. The goal, they said, was to categorize left-wing activity that led to violence as domestic terrorism, an escalation that critics said could lay the groundwork for crushing anti-conservative dissent more broadly.



https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/jd-vance-charlie-kirk-show.html

[Bread and Circuses]

1. Here it comes. They will shut down our voice on internet platforms . Your Insight ?

Questions?

Will DU be targeted?

Will Dem podcasters and YouTube channels be shuttered?

What happens to Indivisible? Mobilize? ETC. ?

What’s your insight?

[Vinca]

2. Well, no more meetings of the "Ban All Guns" clubs across America.

And who could possibly think left wing ideology like healthcare for all, good education, equality, etc. is anything but terrorism???? It's really a shame the shooter wasn't described as having a picture of Trump tattooed on his back.

[Montauk6]

25. We've learned that such groups may not be necessary...

What has the right been telling us forever (at least, going back to when I was in the life)?

Any gun legislation is one small step towards the same boxcars that were a part of Nazi Germany.

They've just tipped their hands with this idea that the 2nd Amendment should not apply to Transgendered Americans... that's big. Yes, even the NRA came out in opposition but this is the same NRA that blinked when the Black Panthers in California triggered Gov. Ronnie to sign the Mulford Act which prohibited the public carrying of loaded weapons without a permit.

[Celerity]

3. Enabling Act of 1933

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

The Enabling Act of 1933 (German: Ermächtigungsgesetz, officially titled Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich. 'Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Reich') was a law that gave the German Cabinet—most importantly, the chancellor, Adolf Hitler—the power to make and enforce laws without the involvement of the Reichstag or President Paul von Hindenburg. By allowing the chancellor to override the checks and balances in the constitution, the Enabling Act of 1933 was a pivotal step in the transition from the democratic Weimar Republic to the totalitarian dictatorship of Nazi Germany.

Background

On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler, leader of the Nazi Party (NSDAP), was appointed as Chancellor, the head of the German government. Hitler immediately asked President von Hindenburg to dissolve the Reichstag. A general election was scheduled for 5 March 1933.

Reichstag fire

On 27 February 1933, the Reichstag building of the German parliament caught fire. Acting as chancellor, Hitler immediately accused the Communists of perpetrating the arson as part of a larger effort to overthrow the German government. He persuaded Hindenburg to enact the Reichstag Fire Decree, which abolished most civil liberties, including the right to speak, assemble and protest, and the right to due process. A state of emergency was declared on the basis of the decree, which enabled a violent crackdown against the Nazis' political enemies, in particular the Communist Party.

Amid the ongoing repression, Hitler contended that the Reichstag Fire Decree was nonetheless insufficient and demanded a more sweeping measure. He submitted to the Reichstag a proposal for an enabling law that would grant effectively untrammeled power to his cabinet.

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[SWBTATTReg]

4. All I'll say is to keep your eyes peeled and watch the happenings going on in your neighborhoods. My concern here is

that some off-the-wall non-viable excuse will be manufactured by tRUMP thugs to illegally attack and suppress what is normally voter turnouts for democratic candidates, etc., that is, a normal political campaign event...

Just watch yourselves. We always do, being in an urban environment, but especially now, when the right is hyper-ventilating into brown paper sacks.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

28. Count on them sowing chaos on election day.

[SWBTATTReg]

50. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Thugs. They'll throw anything at the wall, to see if anything sticks. Pathetic.

Take care of yourself!

[Walleye]

5. Making Joe McCarthy look like an amateur

[SSJVegeta]

18. Joe McCarthy didnt have the full weight and power of the executive

But now he does.

[Walleye]

29. Yep.

[leftstreet]

6. Is there contact info for these "dangerous liberal groups?"

In case we all want to join

[Blues Heron]

7. These pukes should be tested for rabies- they are frothing at the mouth with rage

[keep_left]

8. There was a little-noticed post by David Shuster on X the other day...

...(9/12) about the shooter's motivation and ideology. It differs greatly from the phony narrative which so many in the Trump regime have been slaving like stevedores to sell to the general public.

https://democraticunderground.com/100220643095#post33
https://democraticunderground.com/100220642543#post4

According to Utah officials + police interviews with his family, Tyler Robinson hated Charlie Kirk because Kirk wasn't conservative enough. (Robinson reportedly admired Nick Fuentes). GOPer's now scrubbing X posts about dems faster than DOJ erases Trump name in Epstein files.

Link to tweet

https://democraticunderground.com/100220641518#post21

[proud patriot]

11. David will be on Stephanie Miller Tomorrow morning

[keep_left]

12. Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be listening.

[proud patriot]

53. You're welcome

[Prairie Gates]

9. The news media has decided that this strategy is sufficient

"Trump says X, but without evidence."

This is "fairness," according to the considered journalistic opinion of the New York Times. It's obvious that this is a failed strategy of disputing Trump's lies. Thinking it is fair to report a lie from Trump's mouth and then say it is either a lie or presented without evidence is not even old-fashioned. Our 20th century elders knew better than to engage in such nonsense. You don't report lies. Period.

[Hekate]

10. Remind me to re-donate to ACLU, SPLC, PP and a few Dem pols. Not much at this point...

…just my way of tagging them and leaving my name.

I’m old and at the point I wonder what my whole life was for. Trump can kiss my rosy Irish ass.

[orangecrush]

39. Same

[Cha]

55. It's Patriots VS Nazis.. is what it is.

VS

[travelingthrulife]

13. This is it and NYT is helping them by pretending the shooter was liberal.

Utah governor lying about the shooter being liberal after knowing otherwise. I think they will kill the shooter. They went to all this effort to build this big lie, I would hate to have the shooter spoil it with reality.

[Chicagogrl1]

15. Perhaps this has been the plan

All along. Fuentes riles up his base & gets a result. Said result was planned & now can be used for the retribution campaign. Really makes you think…

[Diraven]

16. They can use him though

Better than getting rid of him will be getting him to "confess" to the "radical left-wing indoctrination" narrative they're already pushing on the media without evidence, with the promise of a reduced sentence. The proof will be when they back off their day one vow to pursue the death penalty.

[generalbetrayus]

34. Are they looking for aspiring Jack Rubys, perhaps?

[live love laugh]

49. WaPo and other media are also helping. We wouldn't be here without the complicity.

All is lost.

[Elessar Zappa]

62. All is never lost.

We can and will pull through this. Even Nazi Germany was only a flash in the pan (with extremely deadly consequences, admittedly).

[live love laugh]

70. True but for some whose lives are at stake, it is.

[Puppyjive]

14. What a bunch of idiots

It's the radical right that needs investigated. They bring in the violence with their hate.

[themaguffin]

17. ***CRACKDOWN ON FREE SPEECH*** (That they don't like)

[milestogo]

19. Big crackdown on imaginary groups.

[emulatorloo]

27. You nailed it.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

58. All theater

like the FBI "investigation" of Beer Boofer Kavanaugh.

And the circus of "evidence" during Prez Clinton's impeachment.

And on, and on, and on...

Leaves some people absolutely breathless.

[Initech]

66. It's all so he can look good on network news.

Because network news is the only thing that keeps him in power and people scared.

[mdbl]

20. This from the asshole who incited the January 6th riots

What a maroon.

[newdeal2]

21. Any hope the SCOTUS will rein him in?

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I know…

[llmart]

31. "rein"

Don't want to give the orange imbecile any ideas.

[newdeal2]

32. Haha bad autocorrect (autocrat)

I can’t wait to see him in his Burger King crown.

[generalbetrayus]

35. Will this do instead?

[Skittles]

37. JFC!

MY EYES!!

[johnnyfins]

22. This will go nowhere, because it is a fever dream.

It does, however, take the EPSTEIN FILES out of the headlines. SHOUT IT LOUDER!!

WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!!!!

DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY.

[newdeal2]

24. I'm not as sure

He can put a lot of pressure on whatever group he wants while it gets litigated in court. Might run some groups out of business in the meantime. And who knows how the SCOTUS will rule these days

[WestMichRad]

54. Recent precedents suggest a lower court will issue an injunction

… then the Sick Six of SCOTUS will, via a shadow docket ruling, stay the injunction and let the policy take effect “while the case plays out” in the lower court. Giving him plenty of time to screw us over.

[BurnDoubt]

23. Any Conspiracy Theories out there yet?

Right now, yours is just as good as anybody else's, so, come on... take a shot.
He's already MAGA Jesus.

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. You mean "any other conspiracy theories", I presume

The Trump regime's conspiracy theory described in the OP seems to fit their needs.

[musette_sf]

26. Every accusation is a confession

[Blue Full Moon]

30. Shouldn't Loomer and Fuentes be charged?

Loomer said Kirk was a traitor to MAGA. Fuentes said he was an enemy.

[Johonny]

33. This sounds frightening

The end of the country.

[LeftInTX]

60. Na!!! He was gonna designate Antifa a terrorist group during his last administration.

I don't even hear much about them anymore. I think they were all kinda young back then and 8 years has taken a toll on them?

These are not even "Liberal Groups".

The Oversite Committee has been looking into Party for Socialism and Liberation financial activities for several months. They are a real political party, with some possible campaign finance violations because they refuse to report their activities as political. Long story. They are one reason we have Trump anyway. They went out of their way to get everyone to vote third party and paid for protesters to protest the DNC. They are responsible for the statement, "Genocide Joe". They had their own presidential candidates.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Letter-to-Treasury-re-Asset-Seizure.pdf

Reportedly, Mr. Singham, a U.S. citizen with ties to the CCP, has been funding and
supporting various extremist entities in the United States with the aim of causing destruction and
division in our country.1 On July 10, 2024, Secretary Marco Rubio, then-Vice Chairman of the
U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and Senator Lindsey Graham, then-Ranking
Member of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary, wrote to Attorney General Merrick
Garland raising concerns about Mr. Singham’s activities on behalf of the CCP.2 It does not
appear that the Biden Administration addressed this potential source of civil unrest

Biden didn't investigate them, even though they had a candidate that was running against him. I guess Biden didn't take them seriously enough or didn't want to get people mad.

I wish the NY Times had not called them "Liberal Groups". PSL is communist and supports totalitarianism. These are not "Liberal Groups".

Antifa is also not a "Liberal Group". It's more or less anarchist.

[ancianita]

36. They will lie and say that the 4% are as bad as the 75%.

[orangecrush]

38. Writing a check with his droopy mouth

That his lard ass can't catch.

Go back to 1985, grifter.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

59. .

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. I thought the mugging of "Big Balls" in DC was their Reichstag moment. I apologise.

Clearly they've gone with the "our beloved martyr was murdered by a vast left wing conspiracy" move. More dramatic, I suppose. No one took Big Balls seriously enough.

[Hekate]

44. They're going for Horst Wessell now -- young fiery martyr who wrote a song. Did Charlie write one?

That business with Shady JD accompanying Kirk’s coffin on Air Farce 2, and trump ordering flags at half-staff, is enough to stand your hair on end.

[muriel_volestrangler]

48. As far as I can tell, they killed 3 people because of Wessel's death, and they used it to rile up their hordes

but they didn't base suppression of opposing parties on it - that was what they used the Reichstag fire for. The conspiracy theory described in the OP (that a huge conspiracy needs stamping out) is more ambitious than anything the OG Nazis used Wessel for.

[Hekate]

45. This reminds me: is someone writing a sequel to Wag the Dog?

[LeftInTX]

63. Oh my...I forgot about "Big Balls"..LOL

[North Coast Lawyer]

42. more pretext

Antisemitism as an excuse for authoritarianism is just about played out so of course they'll need a new excuse.

[LogDog75]

43. What left-wing network?

All that searching will end up wasting money, FBI resources, time, etc. because there is no left-wing network that funds and incites violence, seizing on the killing to make broad and unsubstantiated claims about their political opponents.

But then again, when the Orange Turd looks in a mirror his right hand appears as his left hand so that's probably where he got the idea it was a left-wing network when in fact he was looking at his right-wing network.

The Orange Turd is channeling his inner George Constanza.

[Bristlecone]

46. More Projection "Policy"

[Amaryllis]

47. he Republican governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, has said that the suspect had a "leftist ideology" and that he acted alone.

???? I thought Cox was preaching turning down the rhetoric? Did he change the channel?

[Wiz Imp]

51. I want to know who are all these conservative victims of radical liberal violence?

In searching, I can only find 2 over the entire past 5 years - Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump. And none of those incidents has yet been proven to be perpetrated by anyone on the "left". All the alleged perpetrators have personal or family history on the far right. Can Trump or any conservative even name another conservative victim? The next most recent one I can find is Steve Scalise being shot but that was over 8 years ago.

Meanwhile, it's easy to name Democratic victims - the 2 Democratic legislators in Minnesota plus their spouses, PA Governor Josh Shapiro, Paul Pelosi, two New Mexico state legislators and two Bernalillo County commissioners were targets of a shooting spree by a Republican who lost an election, MI Governor Gretchen Whitmer was a victim of an attempted kidnapping, U.S. District Judge Esther Salas was the target of an attack by a disgruntled men's rights lawyer which ended up killing her son. And that doesn't even get into Jan 6.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/09/12/is-radical-left-violence-really-on-the-rise-in-america

One paper by Celinet Duran of the State University of New York at Oswego studied political violence between 1990 and 2020. It found that there were far more frequent and deadly attacks by the hard-right than the hard-left, although left-wing violence increased throughout the study period. A separate tally by the Anti-Defamation League, an advocacy group, shows that 76% of extremist-related murders over the past decade were committed by those on the right.

I don't know why the labels don't show but the red represents violence by the right, and black represents violence by the left.

[LeftInTX]

67. The House Oversite Committee has been looking at the Party for Socialism and Liberation for several months.

Financial ties to the CCP.

That's the only group that I know they have anything credible against. India also looked at stuff Singham was financing in India under their foreign agents laws.

Even, then they will probably just go after Neville Singham and even then, the groups he supports will just rebrand.

Rubio wanted to investigate their financing in 2024, but Merrick Garland didn't investigate them. They ran a presidential candidate and strong campaign against Biden and then Harris.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Letter-to-Treasury-re-Asset-Seizure.pdf

Trump is just bloviating.....These aren't "Liberal Groups".....They're communist and totalitarian.

Anything "fringe" with no ties to anything can't really be investigated.

Real Liberal Groups are not connected to the People's Republic of China.

[betsuni]

52. 2024: Oh my, America going in wrong bad Democratic status quo direction, need change from bad Democratic status quo.

Fiddledeedee.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

64. 2025: Oh my, do nothing letter writing old Dems should be primaried for not being in control of everything.

"War, war, war!"

?si=v4RVvargFA5gDZBH

[Baitball Blogger]

56. So, when the left regains control,

Can we go after the federalist society and all the other conservative organizations that got us here?

[wiggs]

57. When you win the very last 'election' you can call anyone a domestic terrorist. nt

[Ping Tung]

61. Does the "coordinated movement" have a name? A CEO? Does it take orders from Bogeyman Corp?

[muriel_volestrangler]

68. Apparently it's "The Nation", and it takes its orders from the Ford Foundation and (of course) George Soros

That's the official line from the Vice President and Gauleiter Stephen Miller:

Three days after the murder of Charlie Kirk, allegedly by one Tyler Robinson of Utah, Vice President JD Vance and other government officials seized the means of production of Kirk’s podcast, so as not to let a good tragedy or Kirk’s audience of more than 3 million to go to waste. They put on their own state-sponsored show, right out of Vance’s office, to try to blame the killing on liberals and declare and incite retribution on George Soros, the Ford Foundation, and anyone insufficiently sad over Kirk’s death.
...
“I read a story in The Nation magazine about my dear friend Charlie Kirk. Now, The Nation isn't a fringe blog. It's a well-funded, well-respected magazine whose publishing history goes back to the American Civil War. George Soros’s Open Society Foundation funds this magazine, as does the Ford Foundation and many other wealthy titans of the American Progressive Movement. The writer accuses Charlie of saying, and I quote, ‘Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously.’ But if you go and watch the clip, the very clip she links to, you realize he never said anything like that. He never uttered those words.”
...
“There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend. There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination. And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorists. [...] Did you know that the George Soros Open Society Foundation and the Ford Foundation, the groups who funded that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death, do you know they benefit from generous tax treatment? They are literally subsidized by you and me, the American taxpayer.“
...
Miller took to X to coo about how much fun he was having witch-hunting online for the enemies within among his fellow citizens.

“In recent days, we have learned just how many Americans in positions of authority—child services, law clerks, hospital nurses, teachers, gov’t workers, even DOD employees—have been deeply and violently radicalized. The consequence of a vast, organized ecosystem of indoctrination.”

https://www.wonkette.com/p/jd-vance-has-jolly-time-hosting-hitler

Wonkette also points out how white supremacists have been going after the Ford Foundation since the 1950s, when it donated to the NAACP. And that maybe the piece of Nazi history to bear in mind today is Kristallnacht - which was triggered by the assassination of a Nazi diplomat.

[Ping Tung]

69. Yep. Soros is kinda the go to guy when they wants to scare the gullible magas.

[Initech]

65. This adminitration is so fucking disgusting.

If you really want to shut down hate groups, shut down the MAGA podcast bros and Fox News.