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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhile Trump Engages in Attacks on Democracy and Free Speech, Farmers Are in Deep Trouble
For all his defending of hate speech and promised retaliation against those CALLING IT OUT,
his planned assaults upon cities with large minority populations,
and his crimes on the high seas (did I forget to mention his Epstein pedo allegations?)
one MIGHT almost forget his pal Putin's threats to Poland, France and NATO, and Trump's FAILING economy looming on the horizon.
Not to mention the impending crisis farmers are facing:
Were out of time': Farms warn Trump is about to usher in the worst crisis in decades - Rawstory
According to The New York Times, the move by the Chinese government to halt U.S. soybean imports "has had devastating repercussions for farmers in North Dakota, which exported more than 70 percent of its soybeans to China before Trump unveiled the new tariffs this year. Unless China agrees to restart its purchases as part of a trade deal, farmers that depend on the Chinese market will be facing steep losses that could fuel farm bankruptcies and farm foreclosures around the United States.
The stress level is much higher now than it was then, 44-year-old Jordan Gackle, who co-owns a 76-year-old soybean farm near Kulm, told The Times. If we keep this going for very long, then we are going to see the kind of foreclosures that were happening. He continued, All of it is unnecessary. The U.S. was not forced into this by anybody.Justin Sherlock, a 37-year-old farmer in Dazey, had a more blunt assessment: I feel like were out of time.
Justin Sherlock, a 37-year-old farmer in Dazey, had a more blunt assessment: I feel like were out of time.
usonian
(26,928 posts)
Are they STILL more concerned about "radical libs" than impending financial doom for their families and farms?
This will be a big test. Hard to go after "lefty murderers" with pitchforks THAT WERE REPOSSESED.
Like addicts, the cult members may have to hit ROCK FUCKING BOTTOM before waking up.
And then, do they still blame "libs" OUT OF OFFICE??
FAFO DELUXE.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219770873
msongs
(74,401 posts)Escurumbele
(4,119 posts)There was a video posted here in DU that explains the farmers support for trump, they wanted easy money from the bail out, as it happened before. trump screws them, and then he screws the tax payers by giving taxpayer money to the farmers, and because most of them are millionaires, they also benefit from the tax cuts.
This talk about patriotism is so fake it is disgusting, when their bank accounts are full of money? patriotism just becomes something they can wrap themselves around to pretend they love their country.
usonian
(26,928 posts)Whack everyone upside the head.
Determine which ones you want to cater to.
Throw (our) money at them.
Eagle Shit, we used to call it.
Klarkashton
(5,466 posts)Just like last time. It's only money.
Lovie777
(24,198 posts)IbogaProject
(6,145 posts)And demand for our Treasuries declines. The knock on effects of decresed trade will become obvious as tax receipts start to decline. There may be some laggs, but the money to prop up farmers this round will be in much shorter supply.
JI7
(93,908 posts)B.See
(9,013 posts)Ukraine isn't our concern either... and so on and so on...
JI7
(93,908 posts)B.See
(9,013 posts)I happen to think it behooves Democrats to remind those who supported this cretin of ALL the ways he's failing THEM, whether or not it makes a difference in how they'll vote.
JI7
(93,908 posts)They know Biden helped them also although they opposed his helping black farmers also.
They know what they are doing. They know why they supported Trump.
B.See
(9,013 posts)the politicians they've placed their trust in, and voted for, have betrayed them on multiple front.,
That many know why they voted for Trump, and why they very well may again.
That still doesn't preclude our REMINDING them of it... over and over again if need be. Doesn't preclude our DUTY to lend truth to their lies, to reveal their fallacies.
I think not letting THEM control the narrative, IS our concern.
Isn't that in part why we are here?
Escurumbele
(4,119 posts)The World needs to wake up, we need to get these thugs out of power, everything, everywhere is being destroyed by these mad men.
Because history repeats, I feel that all these dictators and bad people will eventually fall like other dictators from the past have fallen, and its usually an ugly fall.
B.See
(9,013 posts)we should call out ALL of the negative consequences of Trump's occupancy/dictatorship whether we think it is of personal concern to or not.
For the PURPOSE of calling HIM OUT.
There are many concerns discussed herein, on a daily basis. Who's to dictate what should or shouldn't be of concern?
BoRaGard
(7,598 posts)repubes sucker everyone sooner or later
popsdenver
(2,754 posts)have been screwing the farmers over for years.....(remember FARMAID?).........each time a big bunch of family owned farms go belly up, and the huge Corporate Farms buy them up for pennies on the dollar.........The humongous Corporate Farms are willing to put up with short term losses and know that it is all part of the master, long range plan.....lose the short term battles and win the war.....
perdita9
(1,367 posts)Now some Libs are going to own their farms
mountain grammy
(29,298 posts)He doesnt give a shit about your stinking soybeans.
Walleye
(45,715 posts)Autumn
(49,033 posts)Eventually. Fuck em.
KG
(28,798 posts)popsdenver
(2,754 posts)in his first admin, but then bailed them all out.......wonder if he will do the same this time around?
FAFO should be the new battle cry of the Dems, when and if.............
B.See
(9,013 posts)much of it will go to larger farms. MANY lost their farms in spite of the "BAILOUTS" last time.
So if they didn't FIND OUT first time around and voted for the GRIFTER again (he's made billions so far, off his second GRIFT, making him among the world's wealthiest) then heaven help em, because Trump sure won't.
popsdenver
(2,754 posts)in the Senate and House don't care if their MAGAots end up in the lower-lower class, just as we will......
It will be the top 1% and all the 99% as serfs and peasants....
miyazaki
(2,696 posts)republianmushroom
(22,865 posts)The majority of those farmers voted for tump and his policites.
Live and learn, little dudes.
popsdenver
(2,754 posts)They are just now beginning to realize how badly they set themselves up to get screwed royally. It is laughable that they still won't admit it............
A prime example is the current CRASHING of Health Care and the closing of small Hospitals in small towns across the entire U.S. Rural Red States..........
I think the most comical is the Republican Senators, The Republican House Members and the Republican US Supreme Court Justices who are all in lock step supporting Trump and everything the 2025 Crowd and Steven Miller are doing in the shadows........LOL
All three groups are so stupid, and living in la la land.......They haven't yet realized that there is NO Legislative or Judicial Branch of the government in a Tyrannical Dictatorship........LOL
Walleye
(45,715 posts)IronLionZion
(51,654 posts)Corporate farms are less impacted by tariffs and mass deportations of migrant workers. So they view these downturns as an opportunity to go shopping.
Scruffy1
(3,556 posts)The price has been creeping up and I'm thinking the smart money is betting the tarifs are going away. It sounds to me like a vast scam to hand the R voters lots of cash.
quakerboy
(14,923 posts)Otherwise its all hot air.
aggiesal
(10,979 posts)His first term wasn't hard enough on the Farm belt, they had to give him another term so he could inflict maximum pain.
Well, they got it.
They voted knowing that he was a tariff nut and that his policy would damage their livelihood.
Congratulations
, you got what you wanted, brown people deported and owning the Libs.
Now you don't have anyone to work your farms or buy your product.
Walleye
(45,715 posts)democratsruletheday
(1,951 posts)and NO woman of color will ever get elected POTUS in this country....at least not in my lifetime. Too much racism and misogyny mixed together in a hateful slurry
Walleye
(45,715 posts)Certainly not in my lifetime
aggiesal
(10,979 posts)Do I need to add the sarcasm thingee?
Walleye
(45,715 posts)aggiesal
(10,979 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,787 posts)about getting rid of EBT cards and replacing the system with boxed food rations. I wonder if the plan is to force people to eat whatever our farmers cannot sell on the market. Of course there is also the matter of licking their chops to buy up all of this foreclosed property in the near future.
Dawson Leery
(19,592 posts)You did this to yourselves.
No more taxpayer dollars for farmers.
ananda
(35,695 posts)Right
Blue Full Moon
(3,750 posts)Zero consequences for their disastrous votes.
Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)I cant find any announcements of such.
Blue Full Moon
(3,750 posts)appleannie1
(5,479 posts)B.See
(9,013 posts)Was a 'look who's fucking ya over" kind of thread.
myohmy2
(3,723 posts)...when trump fucks you and your soybeans make some soybean lemonade...or soybean burgers, soybean MAGA hats or maybe even soybean gun stocks...be creative
... don't go sticking your capitalist republican hand into our treasury for dough like some left-wing radical liberal communist, it wouldn't be right...
...but if worse comes to worse, go on social media and tell everyone it was a mistake, you really voted for Harris then start kissing some Chinese ass...
...we all make mistakes, Xi will understand...
...
Sadly, Trumpies in Congress will pass a bailout bill. Welfare for MAGA.
hadEnuf
(3,677 posts)Especially from the people who have the food.
Bailout for red states only?
North Coast Lawyer
(281 posts)Most of the soybeans and corn produced in the USA are not for human consumption. Interestingly farms that produce fruits and vegetables get few subsidies and don't export much.
North Coast Lawyer
(281 posts)Having a real hard time mustering any sympathy.