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WhiskeyGrinder

(27,227 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:19 PM Sep 2025

Illinois police officer killed a preschooler 19 seconds after entering his home

https://prismreports.org/2025/09/16/illinois-police-shooting-terrell-miller/

Terrell was a sweet boy who was intelligent beyond his years, according to Miller. He loved Spider-Man because he was a hero who helped people. His short life came to an end on March 16, 2024, when MPD Lt. Nick Goc killed the 4-year-old alongside Miller’s abusive boyfriend, 57-year-old Anthony George.

Goc first joined the MPD in 2007, and investigations into the shooting exonerated him on the basis that his use of deadly force was “justified,” meaning that the officer’s response to a threat was found to be reasonable and necessary. What constitutes a “justifiable use of force” varies wildly and is interpreted differently across states and even cities, often resulting in no repercussions for officers involved in shootings and no justice for the victims of police violence, who are disproportionately Black.

According to the city of Macomb, Terrell Miller and Anthony George’s deaths were justified. While Goc was cleared of any wrongdoing in their deaths, Keianna Miller is pursuing a civil rights lawsuit that alleges excessive use of force.

(snip)

Since 2020, the number of police killings in the U.S. has increased every year. Police killed at least 1,226 people last year, the most people on record. According to data compiled by the Washington Post, between 2015 and 2024, police killed 191 children. Black children like Terrell are six times more likely to be killed by police than white children.
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Illinois police officer killed a preschooler 19 seconds after entering his home (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2025 OP
Horrific malaise Sep 2025 #1
Bodycam: TheProle Sep 2025 #2
Apparently drunk old man the police shot had just raped/beaten child's mother and was threatening to kill child. Silent Type Sep 2025 #3
Say what? Cirsium Sep 2025 #8
You need to watch video, police didn't try to shoot child, they fired one shot to stop the MFer from killing child. Silent Type Sep 2025 #10
That's what it looks like. NH Ethylene Sep 2025 #12
Nonsense Cirsium Sep 2025 #15
That's nonsense too. Silent Type Sep 2025 #16
Oh really? Cirsium Sep 2025 #28
I agree. red dog 1 Sep 2025 #22
Of course Cirsium Sep 2025 #29
I agree with you. It was a tragic ending, but the cop can't be blamed. 70sEraVet Sep 2025 #13
Awful Story ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #4
Add credence to cop qualifications IzzaNuDay Sep 2025 #5
Let me guess. There won't be any mass vigils for him, Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #6
He had just raped Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #7
Oh No, we'll go to mat bashing a policeman for what well could have been best action with that killer clutching child Silent Type Sep 2025 #11
prettttty sure that shooting the toddler is not the best action WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2025 #14
Except he didn't shoot at toddler, hoping to kill rapist/abuser before he spread toddler's blood all over the place like Silent Type Sep 2025 #18
He did shoot at the toddler. That's how the toddler got hit. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2025 #20
Yeah, he took one shot and he aimed at child rather than rapist perp holding the kid with blood all over the place. BS. Silent Type Sep 2025 #21
No Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #24
It's a pity that cops in this country have damaged their reputations so badly. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #17
But not in this case. Maybe people ought to look a little closer before dragging up BS from over a year ago. Silent Type Sep 2025 #19
The stats are lacking because the racial breakdown is the real story. live love laugh Sep 2025 #9
Why couldn't Goc have used a taser instead of his gun in this instance? red dog 1 Sep 2025 #23
Not really an option Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #30
Cops are trained in gun use and target shooting Figarosmom Sep 2025 #25
Tase the kid BidenRocks Sep 2025 #26
Life Isn't TV OC375 Sep 2025 #27
I graduated from WIU and have had my issues with Macomb PD CanonRay Sep 2025 #31
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. Apparently drunk old man the police shot had just raped/beaten child's mother and was threatening to kill child.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:42 PM
Sep 2025

Outcome was horrible, though. I’m sure it could have been handled differently, especially if the drunk rapist had given up.

Cirsium

(4,111 posts)
8. Say what?
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:47 PM
Sep 2025

So you would shoot the child in order to accomplish what? To save the child? The police were a far greater risk to the child tha the suspect.

You are sure it could have been handled differently? Duh, ya think?

If the drunk rapist had given up there wouldn't have been anything to "handle."

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
10. You need to watch video, police didn't try to shoot child, they fired one shot to stop the MFer from killing child.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:04 PM
Sep 2025
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/terrell-miller-macomb-fatal-police-shooting-4-year-old/

That happens sometimes, I suspect they decided to shoot before the guy could spill the child's blood all over the apartment and stairwell outside like he did the mother's.

NH Ethylene

(31,396 posts)
12. That's what it looks like.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:12 PM
Sep 2025

The cop may have thought he had a clear but narrow shot at the man's head, which would have saved the child. Sadly, he was wrong. Maybe if the man was not moving around it would have worked.

I don't know what protocol is though. It may be not to take that risk but to try and talk the suspect down. I'm dubious that that would have worked; he was acting pretty psycho.

red dog 1

(33,471 posts)
22. I agree.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:39 PM
Sep 2025

I watched that video several times, and the cop could have just backed up and tried to reason with the psychopath .... perhaps suggesting that he put the child down or asking the asshole if he really wanted to kill his own 4-year-old son or something like that.

Instead, the cop gambled on the little boy's life, shot his gun and killed the innocent toddler.

70sEraVet

(5,616 posts)
13. I agree with you. It was a tragic ending, but the cop can't be blamed.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:21 PM
Sep 2025

My guess is, that cop will replay those couple of seconds in his head for the rest of his life. I know I would.

ProfessorGAC

(77,277 posts)
4. Awful Story
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:47 PM
Sep 2025

You'd think cops working in a small city like that wouldn't face enough daily stress to be so hair-trigger.

IzzaNuDay

(1,334 posts)
5. Add credence to cop qualifications
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 06:56 PM
Sep 2025

I perceive psychological education is not given effectively to cops— like deescalation of DV events, managing implicit bias, and gun control.

Crunchy Frog

(28,299 posts)
6. Let me guess. There won't be any mass vigils for him,
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:36 PM
Sep 2025

no flags at half staff, and he's not going to be canonized.

The press will also not be publishing any long, detailed texts between the shooter and his transitioning lover.

This is just another day in America.

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
7. He had just raped
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 07:43 PM
Sep 2025

her at knife point and stabbed her multiple times. He then had one knife to the child's throat and another to the abdomen.

Anthony George is the one responsible for the death of that child.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
11. Oh No, we'll go to mat bashing a policeman for what well could have been best action with that killer clutching child
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:06 PM
Sep 2025

Wish it had ended differently. Maybe if they had luxury of a mental health professional, but I think it had gone beyond that with rape, beating, blood, etc.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
18. Except he didn't shoot at toddler, hoping to kill rapist/abuser before he spread toddler's blood all over the place like
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:28 PM
Sep 2025

mom's. I guess that's your preference.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
21. Yeah, he took one shot and he aimed at child rather than rapist perp holding the kid with blood all over the place. BS.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:36 PM
Sep 2025

Now, if you want to talk about police abuse in general, I'm probably with you. Just not in this case.

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
24. No
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:50 PM
Sep 2025

He was trying to save the child's life and it went terribly wrong. Cops aren't perfect no matter how much training they get.

Crunchy Frog

(28,299 posts)
17. It's a pity that cops in this country have damaged their reputations so badly.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:25 PM
Sep 2025

It leads to people automatically assuming the worst.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
19. But not in this case. Maybe people ought to look a little closer before dragging up BS from over a year ago.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:33 PM
Sep 2025

red dog 1

(33,471 posts)
23. Why couldn't Goc have used a taser instead of his gun in this instance?
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:44 PM
Sep 2025

It seems to me that cops entering apartments with guns drawn very often ends badly.

The cop killed a little boy, period. .....I don't care how good his intentions were.

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
30. Not really an option
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:53 PM
Sep 2025

Taser aren't as accurate as people think. Basically just two darts on wires flopping around in the air on the way to their target. If one darts misses, you've got nothing. If you watch the video, the guy is holding the kid right in front of his torso, which is exactly where the taser would need to go to be effective.

Technically, you are right. The officer did kill the child, but he was trying to save the child's life. The fact that some people here are saying he did this on purpose is absolutely sickening. Same goes for those who are saying this was racially motivated. This was simply a tragic accident brought on by no one other than the attempted murderer rapist.

Figarosmom

(13,379 posts)
25. Cops are trained in gun use and target shooting
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:55 PM
Sep 2025

Couldn't the cop had aimed the fun somewhere less lethal to get the guy to release the kid and then go for the kill shot if needed?

BidenRocks

(3,495 posts)
26. Tase the kid
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:04 PM
Sep 2025

Split second later, shoot the perp.

You have 3 seconds to decide.

Then we get forever to second guess the decision, right or wrong.

CanonRay

(16,264 posts)
31. I graduated from WIU and have had my issues with Macomb PD
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:14 PM
Sep 2025

They apparently haven't changed much in 50 years. That said, I'm not sure this situation had a possible good outcome.

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