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msongs

(74,182 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:43 PM Sep 2025

do the democrats have equivalents to the recently deceased in relation to outreach to millions of young adults?

like him or not he had a large following amongst the post adolescent crowd. I cant think of any dem with such a following. well maybe bernie but he is not part of the 20s-30s crowd. am I missing someone?

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do the democrats have equivalents to the recently deceased in relation to outreach to millions of young adults? (Original Post) msongs Sep 2025 OP
No. mr715 Sep 2025 #1
AOC and Mandami yankee87 Sep 2025 #2
For all his flaws, Kirk seemed to enjoying being on a campus.... Mark.b2 Sep 2025 #14
They are elected. Kirk was a lobbyist 24/7. He spent his days going to different college campuses. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #18
@aoc has more followers than CK WarGamer Sep 2025 #3
She, however, is an actual elected politician. mr715 Sep 2025 #7
David Hogg has 1M followers on X WarGamer Sep 2025 #11
He cut his teeth doing activism too mr715 Sep 2025 #16
I've asked myself the same question... Mark.b2 Sep 2025 #4
one thing the dead guy had his own business pumping out his stuff, not just posting on social media nt msongs Sep 2025 #5
Dems are not a monolith TommyT139 Sep 2025 #6
Are there any wealthy liberals who can bankroll someone like AOC? Diamond_Dog Sep 2025 #8
6 or 7 years ago, I would have answered all the pod save the world etc people karynnj Sep 2025 #9
He mainly appealed to white male resentment JI7 Sep 2025 #10
I asked the same question a few days ago. Kirk was bankrolled by a wealthy donor to start TPUSA. tulipsandroses Sep 2025 #12
He latched onto a Tea Party guy. The Tea Party guy was already in his 70s. I think the Tea Party guy founded TPUSA. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #19
Yes, there are liberal influencers Johonny Sep 2025 #13
MeidasTouch is very popular. Elessar Zappa Sep 2025 #15
Liberals: diverse, already have identities, interests, imagination. Kirk: homogeneous, have identity envy, authoritarian betsuni Sep 2025 #17
There quite a few young podcasters/youtubers with sizeable audiences Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #20
Beto O'Rourke: "Powered by People", is working in Texas doing similar work. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #21
Gavin Newsom praises Charlie Kirk's outreach to young men, suggests Dems do more of their own TheProle Sep 2025 #22

mr715

(4,152 posts)
1. No.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:46 PM
Sep 2025

We have Hasan Piker. And that objectionable Destiny dude.

Our bench is somewhat weaker.

Mark.b2

(807 posts)
14. For all his flaws, Kirk seemed to enjoying being on a campus....
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:33 PM
Sep 2025

engaging and debating and verbally sparring with the students. While I agreed with hardly anything he said, he was good at advocating for his positions, and he was generally respectful. Since his murder, I have watched several videos of his Q&As with students and found myself wishing we had someone like him on our side,

I dont know much about Mandami, but I dont see AOC relishing that role. Anyway, we need her where she is.

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
18. They are elected. Kirk was a lobbyist 24/7. He spent his days going to different college campuses.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 11:35 PM
Sep 2025

Well, Mamdani isn't elected yet. But neither has the time to spend their lives 24/7 going to college campuses to recruit Democrats. They have other jobs. Kirk's job was a campaignist 24/7

mr715

(4,152 posts)
16. He cut his teeth doing activism too
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:41 PM
Sep 2025

But he didn't go on campuses and do performative debates. There really is no equivalent on the left to the dark side of the intellectual dark web

Mark.b2

(807 posts)
4. I've asked myself the same question...
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:47 PM
Sep 2025

David Hogg maybe? Maybe too focused on one issue though.

For sure, we need someone.

msongs

(74,182 posts)
5. one thing the dead guy had his own business pumping out his stuff, not just posting on social media nt
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:49 PM
Sep 2025

TommyT139

(2,431 posts)
6. Dems are not a monolith
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 09:50 PM
Sep 2025

...to the extent that magats are.

It is far easier to unify hatred than hold together diverse coalitions.

karynnj

(61,093 posts)
9. 6 or 7 years ago, I would have answered all the pod save the world etc people
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:01 PM
Sep 2025

They were all Obama people, young, and they did reach out to the young. Their podcasts were very informative and they were involved in GOTV. Some of them show up on MSNBC.

I would note that AOC has allied with Bernie, but I would not equate either with Kirk. Unlike him they are elected officials.

A major way all of them were different than Kirk was they were all much more mainstream. I am not sure that a Democratic equivalent of Kirk, very far from the center would work on our side.

JI7

(93,900 posts)
10. He mainly appealed to white male resentment
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:05 PM
Sep 2025

the democrats are a diverse group so you aren't going to get something like that.





tulipsandroses

(8,298 posts)
12. I asked the same question a few days ago. Kirk was bankrolled by a wealthy donor to start TPUSA.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:17 PM
Sep 2025

We don't have an equivalent. I think now is an opportune time. As someone else said, he appealed to white male grievance.
People are angry about losing rights, watching democracy crumble. I think now would be an opportune time for grassroots groups or individuals. But just as CK got millions of dollars from a wealthy donor, that kind of investment needs to be made . CK wasn't self made. He was able to do what he did with millions of dollars invested.

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
19. He latched onto a Tea Party guy. The Tea Party guy was already in his 70s. I think the Tea Party guy founded TPUSA.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 11:41 PM
Sep 2025

Johonny

(26,593 posts)
13. Yes, there are liberal influencers
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:31 PM
Sep 2025

Many have decent audience share. None of them have a billionaire sugar daddy like Kirk had.

betsuni

(29,289 posts)
17. Liberals: diverse, already have identities, interests, imagination. Kirk: homogeneous, have identity envy, authoritarian
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 11:31 PM
Sep 2025

Wiz Imp

(10,404 posts)
20. There quite a few young podcasters/youtubers with sizeable audiences
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:03 AM
Sep 2025

None of them have an audience anywhere near the size of Charlie Kirk's (yet) but they are growing fairly rapidly - Especially Adam Mockler & Luke Beasley.

They include:
Adam Mockler (22) 1.55 million subscribers on YouTube
Luke Beasley (23) 1.4 million subscribers
Jack Cocchiarella (22) 1.19 million subscribers
Dean Withers (21) 374,000 subscribers
Aaron Parnas (26) 306,000 subscribers
Parkergetajob (23) 304,000 subscribers
Harry Sisson (22) 298,000 subscribers
Olivia Juliana (22) 213,000 subscribers
Brian Tyler Cohen (36) 4.72 million subscribers

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
21. Beto O'Rourke: "Powered by People", is working in Texas doing similar work.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:45 AM
Sep 2025
https://poweredxpeople.org/

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Our volunteers live and work in every part of the state, allowing us to meet voters where they are. No neighborhood is too small, too big, too red, or too blue to receive the in-person, human-to-human contact that we know is essential to registering and turning out voters.

Because Texas Republicans have made our state the hardest in the nation to register to vote and cast a ballot, we are putting in the work to reach those most targeted by GOP voter suppression and bring them into our elections.



TheProle

(4,097 posts)
22. Gavin Newsom praises Charlie Kirk's outreach to young men, suggests Dems do more of their own
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:47 PM
Sep 2025
“We have an epidemic of loneliness, and so much of that is manifesting and metastasizing online in very profound and consequential ways, and last week only underscored that further,” said Newsom, referencing Kirk’s killing at a Utah university campus. A 22-year-old man, Tyler Robinson, was charged Tuesday with aggravated murder in the case.

Newsom, speaking in a high school gymnasium and then a weight room, said Democrats in last year’s election had failed to effectively respond to conservatives’ outreach to young men, calling their response “mixed or muted.”

“And I thought that was a mistake. I still do,” he said.

Newsom’s remarks ahead of a likely presidential run represent an effort to counter Republican politicians and activists who aided a seemingly successful campaign for the “bro vote” last year. He also provided a window into his thinking about the death of Kirk, Newsom’s first guest on his podcast “This is Gavin Newsom.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/16/gavin-newsom-charlie-kirk-outreach-men-00567165

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