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Quiet Em

(3,014 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:36 PM Sep 2025

Most 22 year old men are apolitical, believe both parties are the same and don't vote

This assumption that Tyler Robinson leaned left or was radicalized by the left based solely on him being gay is a very far reach.

We don't know Tyler's political leanings. And we don't know very much about his motive other than he believed that Charlie Kirk spread hate and was evil.

That's all we really know.

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leftstreet

(41,251 posts)
1. DURec
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:41 PM
Sep 2025

We've heard more about his family's political leanings

Although if they were loud and obsessive about it, any of his leanings could be considered reactionary

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
2. Totally agree. Though, it was probably a mistake to assume it was a typical white wing shooter.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 11:04 PM
Sep 2025

Although, that’s first thing I think of when another breaking news shooting comes on.

usonian

(26,591 posts)
3. How different? Check the boxes. Republican vs. Democrat.
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 11:18 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:45 AM - Edit history (2)

R ✅ Fails to get the rich to pay their fair share.
D ✅ Fails to get the rich to pay their fair share.

All our problems would be so easy to solve if they did.

They purposely divide and conquer.



We fight over the 10% table scraps they leave.

THE RICH ALWAYS WIN.
No matter what.

ETA: We need to make the differences between those checkboxes enormous because ...

• That's what people want. Huge, excited crowds and
• That's what young people want. A fighting chance to succeed in a work world that despises them.

usonian

(26,591 posts)
7. Bothsiderism is Not my viewpoint!
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:30 AM
Sep 2025

Thinking like a young person who has no sense of history.

Pointing out the universal protection of oligarchs.

When did they ever lose?

THERE MUST BE A DISTINCTION.

I want those boxes to differ. They won't unless we replace their protectors with fighters for equality and equal opportunity.

Will you join the effort?

NoRethugFriends

(3,780 posts)
13. I'm 76 years old with a sense of history.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:18 AM
Sep 2025

Democrats
Civil Rights Act
Social Security
ACA
and a zillion other things

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
15. Yes it is, as if Republicans haven't controlled the House 24 or 25 of the last 30 years and no FDR-type
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:50 AM
Sep 2025

majorities and normal opposition party to work with. Ridiculous. Only works on those who know nothing of history.

Jack Valentino

(5,250 posts)
5. TR being 'gay' is not a fact either-------
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:08 AM
Sep 2025

allegedly being in a love relationship
with another male who is transitioning to female
certainly does NOT make you 'gay'..........


HOWEVER, it might make you hostile to someone who is attacking trans people, as CK habitually did,
and that could make his supposed motives much more 'personal' than 'political'.........

Supposedly he did make some statement about
'not negotiating with hate'....


Maybe his targeting of Kirk had less to do with any broad political principles
(which it is not proven that the shooter held)
than what he felt was a personal attack upon someone he loves...







walkingman

(11,155 posts)
8. The title of the OP is disturbing....
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:45 AM
Sep 2025
𝙈𝙤𝙨𝙩 22 𝙮𝙚𝙖𝙧 𝙤𝙡𝙙 𝙢𝙚𝙣 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙖𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡, 𝙗𝙚𝙡𝙞𝙚𝙫𝙚 𝙗𝙤𝙩𝙝 𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙖𝙢𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙙𝙤𝙣'𝙩 𝙫𝙤𝙩𝙚


So different from when I was that age...1972....there was a concerted effort around the country to have the voting age reduced to 18 (26th Amendment).

It was because we had "skin in the game" and if most 22-year-olds are "apolitical" it tells me that they don't think it will affect them personally.

Well, it does and it will. So my advice for young men is "Grow the fuck up". You are now an adult and it is time to become a responsible citizen. There is no excuse not to do so.

Parallax El

(28 posts)
9. We don't even know that he believed Kirk spread hate and was evil
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:47 AM
Sep 2025

If he was -- as some evidence suggests -- he was a Groyper, then he was a nihilist and white supremacist accelerationist... and that changes things. Like the "Boogaloo Bois", Groypers (followers of Nick Fuentes) simply want to create chaos and blame it on the left.

That's it. That's the game plan.

Wait for BLM protests, then set a Burger King on fire so it gets blamed on the protesters and voila! You created a "riot".

These are not new tactics.

hay rick

(9,719 posts)
10. The information we have is insufficient to make confident judgments about Robinson's motives, politics, or personal life
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:03 AM
Sep 2025

I have zero confidence in the investigating parties providing complete, unfiltered information.

niyad

(134,030 posts)
11. We do not really even know that. It is difficult to give credence to anything
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:07 AM
Sep 2025

the officials involved are saying.

Puppyjive

(1,007 posts)
14. My son is a gamer
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:44 AM
Sep 2025

He liked Trump in high school, but then after his first year in college, he figured the shit out. He battles gamers and talks to us about how stupid they are. He can't reason with them, they have their blinders on. He said many of them don't have girlfriends or jobs. BTW, he never voted for Trump either time.

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