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riversedge

(80,814 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:21 AM Sep 2025

Kristi Noem joined ICE in a Chicago raid this morning. Agents blew the doors off a U.S. citizen's house, handcuffed him,



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Kristi Noem joined ICE in a Chicago raid this morning. Agents blew the doors off a U.S. citizen’s house, handcuffed him, and put him in a propaganda video even after realizing it was a mistake.

This is America under Trump. No one is safe.

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Kristi Noem joined ICE in a Chicago raid this morning. Agents blew the doors off a U.S. citizen's house, handcuffed him, (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2025 OP
That's not Chicago Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #1
I've Said It ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #2
That's fine Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #3
Elgin vs. Chicago is actually and important point. CincyDem Sep 2025 #12
Yes, there's substance to it as well -- nicely said Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #13
Safety is paramount with those types haele Sep 2025 #24
I was born in "a Western suburb of Chicago." If any one cares enough to ask, "which one?", I'll be specific. Harker Sep 2025 #15
I've Used "Chicagoland" On A Few Occasions ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #18
I usually say I'm originally from the tri-state area xmas74 Sep 2025 #37
Joliet Mark Baker Sep 2025 #22
The Blues Brothers 💙 Sequoia Sep 2025 #28
In China? ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #34
In this context, does that really matter? Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #5
I mean, they're screaming about all the crime in the cities Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #14
It makes MAGA sense. As long as SOMEBODY gets arrested. Who is a detail, as is guilt/innocence. eppur_se_muova Sep 2025 #38
This makes Rebl2 Sep 2025 #25
My brother lived out that way. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #32
It's a quiet neighborhood. My Grandparents used to live there. progressoid Sep 2025 #33
I hope he sues the shit out of her. nt GoCubsGo Sep 2025 #4
Yep. Have wondered whether the gubmint ends up replacing all the damage ICE allegorical oracle Sep 2025 #35
So in 11 days with an army of ICE goons they've only found 250 people?! Arazi Sep 2025 #6
Didn't ICE kill one?................ Lovie777 Sep 2025 #9
Yup... a devastating event for us, something to celebrate for ICE 🤬 Arazi Sep 2025 #30
Didn't Noem blow through her annual budget by June or July? CrispyQ Sep 2025 #26
She just got a few billion in the Big Ugly Bill Arazi Sep 2025 #29
Why isn't this front and center on every news cast?????????????????????? Vinca Sep 2025 #7
The news is too busy showing the burning EV being circled by a guy on a mini-bike with a flag . rubbersole Sep 2025 #16
G.O.P. violently enters an innocent man's castle (home) BoRaGard Sep 2025 #8
He's somewhat lucky tho............. Lovie777 Sep 2025 #10
Acting like Nazi stormtroopers. Emile Sep 2025 #11
"I told them I was a U.S. citizen, that my ID was in my wallet." dalton99a Sep 2025 #17
But are Puppy Killer's hair and lips OK?!? travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #19
ICE, along with the FBI, are now Trump properties/reality tv programs, hosted by KKKristi Noempathy and Kooky Kash. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #20
Were there any K9 units involved? Any collateral damage through friendly fire? Ping Tung Sep 2025 #21
Blowing the doors off of someone's house for a DUI? Beaverhausen Sep 2025 #23
In rifling through what's left of my possessions, I came across a way-overdue library book. Buns_of_Fire Sep 2025 #31
They think this is like Call Of Duty. What the actual fuck. Initech Sep 2025 #27
America's Gestapo at work. republianmushroom Sep 2025 #36

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
1. That's not Chicago
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:30 AM
Sep 2025

Haha. I had to look it up because that picture was def not Chicago. It's Elgin.

Listen, Elgin is a far west suburb. It's well past O'Hare, past Schaumburg, even past Hoffman Estates. That's pretty well west. I would consider Elgin the farthest west of the west suburbs. It's friggin halfway to Rockford.



There's a joke in Chicago that if anybody you meet on trip says they're from Chicago, they're probably not from the city (the joke is that they're from Naperville). Elgin is farther from Chicago than Naperville.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
2. I've Said It
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:38 AM
Sep 2025

I've worked in 41 countries outside the US, and if I was asked where I was from, I'd say Chicago.
I lived in Chicago for under 6 months., before my parents moved us to Joliet.
Nobody on Italy, or Poland, or China knows where Joliet is, but they know where Chicago is.
And, I moved to a smaller town in the region. If they didn't know where Joliet is, they sure wouldn't know where our town is.
It's just a convenience to accommodate others' frame of reference.

CincyDem

(7,392 posts)
12. Elgin vs. Chicago is actually and important point.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:31 AM
Sep 2025

From the perspective of growing up in Chicago (really really in the city - as in voting for Daley...lol)...

Elgin is way out there with lower than the national average crime rates. It's probably on the edge of "Chicago/not-Chicago" argument but I'm sure there are people who live in Elgin that commute into the city for work.

To me, this is a great choice for Noem's BS staged participation where the WH can use the footage to bolster their "Chicago is a mess" mantra. Chances of them busting down a door in Elgin and finding 4 guys strapped to the nines sitting in the living room playing GTA VI are nil and zero. No chance of an errant shot clipping her.

But...head into Austin, Englewood, or a dozen other neighborhoods that are actually in the city and those odds go up. Not way up, but there are areas where the response to a no-knock warrant are more dangerous than it is in Elgin.

Geographically...yeah, it's Chicago to most of the country but culturally, safety-wise, "feel"...it's no more Chicago (as most American's know it) than Ohama, Kansas City, or Fargo.

Let's say it a different way: If you won a free weekend for two in Chicago and they took you to Elgin, you'd sue the promoters for false advertising...and probably win.


Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
13. Yes, there's substance to it as well -- nicely said
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:58 AM
Sep 2025

They're screaming about crime but they make a stop in Elgin? It's pretty ludicrous.

haele

(15,403 posts)
24. Safety is paramount with those types
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 2025

Going after potentially real criminals might mean someone on their "team" gets hurt.
They go after the soft targets and easy arrests - like an elderly Nicaraguan immigrant who got a speeding ticket twenty years prior coming in for an appointment to replace a lost green card.

Public safety isn't a real concern to them. Nor is accuracy. ICE's new motto - If you're brown, you're going down.

Harker

(17,786 posts)
15. I was born in "a Western suburb of Chicago." If any one cares enough to ask, "which one?", I'll be specific.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:26 AM
Sep 2025

I don't think I've ever heard anyone other than newscasters and ad readers use "Chicagoland", though.

I'll try it some time. It always gets a funny reaction from my wife here in upstate New York when she hears it during Blackhawks games.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
18. I've Used "Chicagoland" On A Few Occasions
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:04 AM
Sep 2025

But, not very often.
I think I've mostly used it in online discussions. Don't think I've ever used it while speaking.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
37. I usually say I'm originally from the tri-state area
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:40 PM
Sep 2025

Technically Kenosha is the northernmost suburb of Chicago, even though it's closer to Milwaukee. Sometimes they'll joke about Kenosha being on the 50 yard line for sports fans, with a 50/50 split of Chicago fans and Wisconsin fans.

Mark Baker

(95 posts)
22. Joliet
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:17 AM
Sep 2025

Surely everyone has heard of Joliet prison? I wouldn't have known exactly where it is but I knew it was near Chicago.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
34. In China?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:47 PM
Sep 2025

Or Japan, Romania, India, Brazil, Thailand.......?
Not so sure about that.
In the US, you're probably right.

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
14. I mean, they're screaming about all the crime in the cities
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:59 AM
Sep 2025

It's odd to carry on about crime in Chicago and hold your first raids in Elgin. By odd, I mean it makes no sense.

eppur_se_muova

(41,947 posts)
38. It makes MAGA sense. As long as SOMEBODY gets arrested. Who is a detail, as is guilt/innocence.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:19 PM
Sep 2025

Actual due process is not on anyone's mind. They'd probably have to look it up to even know what it means.

Rebl2

(17,743 posts)
25. This makes
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:28 AM
Sep 2025

Noem look like the FOOL she is. Saying they arrested someone who ended up being a US citizen, not in Chicago, but a city so far west of Chicago it’s barely a suburb of Chicago.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
33. It's a quiet neighborhood. My Grandparents used to live there.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:30 PM
Sep 2025

And, yeah, they never said they lived in Chicago. Because they DIDN'T!

Ice Barbie probably flew into Chicago and got into a town car that drove her to Elgin. She's clueless

You can fit the entire population of South Dakota into Chicago three times.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
35. Yep. Have wondered whether the gubmint ends up replacing all the damage ICE
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:48 PM
Sep 2025

does to citizens' cars and homes. Doubt that "gov't law enforcement mistakenly damaged property" is covered by insurance policies.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
6. So in 11 days with an army of ICE goons they've only found 250 people?!
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:39 AM
Sep 2025

So they decide to grab a US citizen in his home who allegedly has a criminal record to make a propaganda video.

Do I have this right?

Massive waste of $$ although if they’re blowing through it this fast, this bullshit will have to stop sooner or later

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
26. Didn't Noem blow through her annual budget by June or July?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:49 AM
Sep 2025

I thought I read a few months ago that she was close to spending it all.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
29. She just got a few billion in the Big Ugly Bill
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:04 PM
Sep 2025

Only hope is enough grifters grab that huge pile of cash fast and Dems reclaim the House in 2026 and cut her off

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
16. The news is too busy showing the burning EV being circled by a guy on a mini-bike with a flag .
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:28 AM
Sep 2025

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
8. G.O.P. violently enters an innocent man's castle (home)
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:14 AM
Sep 2025

then parades the innocent man around as if they had just captured some gross evil doer,
as if he was Jefrey Epstein's Bestie, then says "whoops, sorry, not sorry."

That's some evil, un-American and unchristian republicon Storm Trooper shit.

Lovie777

(22,985 posts)
10. He's somewhat lucky tho.............
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:21 AM
Sep 2025

shithole could have considered him a terrorist and bombed his house.

dalton99a

(94,140 posts)
17. "I told them I was a U.S. citizen, that my ID was in my wallet."
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:54 AM
Sep 2025
Joe Botello, a U.S. citizen from Texas detained in the raid, told the Chicago Sun-Times: "I told them I was a U.S. citizen, that my ID was in my wallet."

https://www.newsweek.com/kristi-noem-ice-raid-illinois-2130995

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,039 posts)
20. ICE, along with the FBI, are now Trump properties/reality tv programs, hosted by KKKristi Noempathy and Kooky Kash.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 2025

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
31. In rifling through what's left of my possessions, I came across a way-overdue library book.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:07 PM
Sep 2025

I was born here, my parents were born here, but my grandmother was from Canada.

I think that qualifies me, by ICEstapo standards, for 5-10 in ADX Florence.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
27. They think this is like Call Of Duty. What the actual fuck.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:50 AM
Sep 2025

If we ever get out of this, we need to make the Nuremberg trials look like a practice run.

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