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senseandsensibility

(24,163 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:44 PM Sep 18

Headline CNN: Source: ABC Wants Kimmel Back, But He Has To Lower the Temperature

I don't know. Sounds like censorship to me. I have been hearing hints all day that ABC is thinking of making this a temporary "pause" on the show, but this is the first I heard that there will be conditions.

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Headline CNN: Source: ABC Wants Kimmel Back, But He Has To Lower the Temperature (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 18 OP
Promise to Traildogbob Sep 18 #1
In other words, "Don't piss off Dear Leader." sakabatou Sep 18 #2
"Walk this Way" or think and say what I like, or else. Deuxcents Sep 18 #5
We could "lower the temperature" by immediately putting Trump into cryostasis Jack Valentino Sep 18 #44
The first amendment doesn't have an asterisk. Initech Sep 18 #55
Let him out of his contract, Disney. roamer65 Sep 18 #3
Not HBO Fiendish Thingy Sep 18 #9
Oh fawk, how many gawd damn networks do they all fawking need?? a kennedy Sep 18 #18
ALL of them, there can be no recognizable media outlet for public dissent 0rganism Sep 18 #41
God, I hope that doesn't happen...my daughter works for them. nt Trueblue Texan Sep 18 #33
As a kid, I lived in a country where everyone had to "lower the temperature" every day AloeVera Sep 18 #4
his show likely emolys dozens of people. except for them he could switch to a podcast/blogcast.... nt msongs Sep 18 #6
he should lower the temperature... to blast furnace lapfog_1 Sep 18 #7
Eisner hasn't been head of Disney for nearly 30 years Fiendish Thingy Sep 18 #10
Nearly 20 years. He stepped down on September 30th, 2005. Celerity Sep 19 #64
Jimmy: Tell ABC to stuff it. Chipper Chat Sep 18 #8
Sue the F*ck out of them! nt Trueblue Texan Sep 18 #34
THIS. MOTHERFUCKING THIS. johnnyfins Sep 18 #37
I like Guillermo. debm55 Sep 18 #56
I thought the comments that canned him were pretty low temp. spanone Sep 18 #11
Who determines the temperature?? Passages Sep 18 #12
I wouldn't do it. Baitball Blogger Sep 18 #13
The "temperature" of that series... Mike Nelson Sep 18 #14
I kacekwl Sep 18 #15
"Lower the Temperature" translation: B.See Sep 18 #16
Damn right it's censorship. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Sep 18 #17
Personally, I think Kimmel's political monologues GarColga Sep 18 #19
Who? senseandsensibility Sep 18 #20
We need an "Unrec" button on DU. skypilot Sep 18 #43
Aren't they dead? littlemissmartypants Sep 18 #50
ABC and FCC: Freedom of Speech for TeeVee Talk Show Hosts MrWowWow Sep 18 #21
Well, before him, you never knew where other Tonight Show hosts leaned politically Polybius Sep 18 #22
yeah that was fine IN THE PAST Skittles Sep 18 #24
Well, I think it's fine now too Polybius Sep 18 #51
you don't seem to get it Skittles Sep 18 #58
I get it Polybius Sep 19 #61
sure Skittles Sep 19 #62
What have you got against a difference of opinion? Polybius Sep 19 #65
LOL Skittles Sep 19 #66
That has nothing to do with what we were discussing Polybius Sep 19 #68
Same here SickOfTheOnePct Sep 18 #29
ABC needs to go fuck itself. Scrivener7 Sep 18 #23
damn straight Skittles Sep 18 #25
Maybe we hear more about that tonight from JS 0rganism Sep 18 #45
Letterman used to keep his CBS studio as low as 55 degrees fahrenheit. tinrobot Sep 18 #26
I wrote a funny column in my old flyfishing club's newsletter that got one or two pissed off. usonian Sep 18 #27
I watched that video on YouTube iemanja Sep 18 #28
As I said in my OP this was a chyron on CNN senseandsensibility Sep 18 #35
The video has that same title iemanja Sep 18 #36
I believe they are saying that they (CNN) have a source senseandsensibility Sep 18 #38
Did you actually see them reporting on this? iemanja Sep 18 #39
I have to admit that I was distracted senseandsensibility Sep 18 #40
The "Whiny Ass Snowflake" feelings were hurt. Emile Sep 18 #30
Kimmel should tell ABC to take a flying f___ BootinUp Sep 18 #31
Fuck ABC! Fuck Disney! Boycott both! OrlandoDem2 Sep 18 #32
Kimmel on ice... Hugin Sep 18 #42
Fuck. That. Noise. Reader Rabbit Sep 18 #46
This will never happen Diraven Sep 18 #47
Turn down the temp until the merger mzmolly Sep 18 #48
He could agree... littlemissmartypants Sep 18 #49
Fuck them. Klarkashton Sep 18 #52
condoms Tetrachloride Sep 18 #53
It's legal if a private company censors an employee. Kablooie Sep 18 #54
And it's legal if the public rejects that company. Scrivener7 Sep 19 #63
ABC realized that they forgot who they serve. Advertisers and audience, not politicians. ... marble falls Sep 18 #57
CNN has run the same chyron today and I heard refetences senseandsensibility Sep 19 #67
Sure, ABC could have just Trump pre-approve Kimmel's jokes. Jim__ Sep 18 #59
They are not doing that well to begin with. Blue Full Moon Sep 18 #60

Jack Valentino

(4,173 posts)
44. We could "lower the temperature" by immediately putting Trump into cryostasis
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:25 PM
Sep 18

"AI Overview
Human Cryostasis - The Cryonics Institute
Cryostasis refers to the preservation of an organism in a state of suspended animation by maintaining it at extremely low, sub-zero temperatures to prevent biological processes, with the hope that future medical advancements will allow for its revival and recovery from a condition that would otherwise be fatal. This is achieved through a process of cryopreservation and is a concept often seen in science fiction. "

In this case, ignore everything after "prevent biological processes"....



roamer65

(37,813 posts)
3. Let him out of his contract, Disney.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:49 PM
Sep 18

There are other networks who will pick him up uncensored.

HBO, TBS, etc, etc.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,783 posts)
9. Not HBO
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:03 PM
Sep 18

Larry Ellison, whose son just bought CBS/Paramount, wants to buy the company that owns HBO.

0rganism

(25,441 posts)
41. ALL of them, there can be no recognizable media outlet for public dissent
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:13 PM
Sep 18

I'm guessing you know this already and your question was mostly rhetorical, but I felt it deserved a response.

And fwiw, I agree with the sentiment







If/when society rebuilds, our descendants will have to figure out how to prevent this kind of grotesque consolidation from ever happening again. I wish them the best of luck.

AloeVera

(3,935 posts)
4. As a kid, I lived in a country where everyone had to "lower the temperature" every day
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:50 PM
Sep 18

That country was behind the Iron Curtain.

msongs

(72,943 posts)
6. his show likely emolys dozens of people. except for them he could switch to a podcast/blogcast.... nt
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:51 PM
Sep 18

lapfog_1

(31,530 posts)
7. he should lower the temperature... to blast furnace
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:55 PM
Sep 18

and roast Disney corp., Eisner, the fascist FCC chair, ABC ( for being cowards ) and the owners of Sinclair, etc.

in addition to Trump and the mis-administration usual suspects.

Spread the satire. Make it relentless.

Mike Nelson

(10,879 posts)
14. The "temperature" of that series...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:14 PM
Sep 18

... of jokes was already low. The "GUTFIELD!" show on FOX has a million times higher temperature, if they are looking for fever-pitched political nasty comedy.

B.See

(7,546 posts)
16. "Lower the Temperature" translation:
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:18 PM
Sep 18

"We know we fk'd up by cancelling you. Disney knows. CARR knows he fk'd up too. And so does Trump.

So to get a lid on this before it blows WIDE OPEN, we want to bring you back, if you only let us save a little FACE by your promising to kowtow to Trump like WE do.

GarColga

(175 posts)
19. Personally, I think Kimmel's political monologues
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:22 PM
Sep 18

are a bit on the boring side and I wouldn't miss them. Bring back Cousin Sal and Aunt Chippy!

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
21. ABC and FCC: Freedom of Speech for TeeVee Talk Show Hosts
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:36 PM
Sep 18

Talk show hosts on ABC are bound by:

FCC Rules:
* No obscenity ever
* Limits on indecency/profanity (6 a.m.–10 p.m.)
* Equal-time obligations for political candidates
* Sponsorship disclosure.

ABC Rules:
* ABC sets editorial, accuracy, and conduct standards
* Contracts often include “morals clauses.”

Law: They can’t defame people; the First Amendment stops government censorship, not ABC from enforcing rules.

For broadcast talk shows on ABC (or any U.S. broadcaster), the controlling federal law is the Communications Act of 1934, as amended by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. That law authorizes the FCC to regulate broadcast content.

Key statutory points:

47 U.S.C. § 326: Forbids the FCC from censoring broadcasters, but allows regulation of obscene, indecent, and profane content.

18 U.S.C. § 1464: Makes it unlawful to utter any obscene, indecent, or profane language by means of radio communication (applies to TV too).

47 U.S.C. § 315 (Equal Time Rule): Requires broadcasters who give airtime to one legally qualified political candidate to afford equal opportunities to others.

47 U.S.C. §§ 317, 508: Require disclosure of sponsorships and prohibit payola/plugola.


Everything else (like editorial balance or “fairness”) is governed by network policy, not federal statute, since the Fairness Doctrine was repealed in 1987.

Polybius

(21,315 posts)
22. Well, before him, you never knew where other Tonight Show hosts leaned politically
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:01 PM
Sep 18

Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, and Conan O'Brien had you guessing if they were Democrats (Leno and O'Brien are, Carson was) or Republicans. Another talk show host that had you guessing was David Letterman. I prefer it that way. Johnny Carson said it best, he never did serious controversy dialog or jokes.

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Skittles

(168,965 posts)
24. yeah that was fine IN THE PAST
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:31 PM
Sep 18

nowadays, when the press and politicians are completely FAILING us, these guys are needed MORE THAN EVER

and FUCK fascist FB, FUCK THEM

Polybius

(21,315 posts)
51. Well, I think it's fine now too
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:39 PM
Sep 18

I don't want my talk show hosts to be openly liberal or conservative. From a business standpoint, it makes more sense as well, since you want both sides to watch.

Polybius

(21,315 posts)
61. I get it
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 04:06 AM
Sep 19

I want my talk show hosts to be apolitical in affiliation. He was also like this over 10 years ago, before MAGA.

Polybius

(21,315 posts)
65. What have you got against a difference of opinion?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 19

Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Not everyone has to see things the same way as you do. Your reply was snark and wasn't very tolerant.

Skittles

(168,965 posts)
66. LOL
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:01 PM
Sep 19

it's DEMOCRACY VS FASCSIM

that's not a DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, THAT IS FACT

DONE HERE

Polybius

(21,315 posts)
68. That has nothing to do with what we were discussing
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:38 PM
Sep 19

I prefer my talk show hosts to be like Conan, Leno, Letterman, and Carson. You prefer them to be like Kimmel and Colbert, and that's fine. I don't care that we disagree, but you have no tolerance for this difference of opinion for some reason. That's ok, have a good day.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
29. Same here
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:47 PM
Sep 18

With the occasional exception of Jimmy Fallon, I haven't watched any of the late night shows in years because I just don't find them entertaining.

tinrobot

(11,915 posts)
26. Letterman used to keep his CBS studio as low as 55 degrees fahrenheit.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:40 PM
Sep 18

Would something like that count as "lowering the temperature?"

usonian

(22,941 posts)
27. I wrote a funny column in my old flyfishing club's newsletter that got one or two pissed off.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:42 PM
Sep 18

I found a short pier and asked them to take a long walk.

P.S. That pier was about a mile away.

senseandsensibility

(24,163 posts)
35. As I said in my OP this was a chyron on CNN
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:56 PM
Sep 18

I am reporting what they aired. They said they had a source. Make of it what you will.

senseandsensibility

(24,163 posts)
38. I believe they are saying that they (CNN) have a source
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:01 PM
Sep 18

that is telling them off the record that this is going on. This source is only telling CNN. Other outlets don't have that source. Again, it may or may not be accurate.

senseandsensibility

(24,163 posts)
40. I have to admit that I was distracted
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:05 PM
Sep 18

and I know they were covering this topic extensively. I did take care to copy the chyron exactly though.

Diraven

(1,774 posts)
47. This will never happen
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:29 PM
Sep 18

Some billionaire shareholders could lose a few bucks if they have to actually defy Trump. Can't have that.

Kablooie

(19,029 posts)
54. It's legal if a private company censors an employee.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:40 PM
Sep 18

That’s how Trump gets away with it. Ostensibly the company made the decision not the government.
We will be seeing a lot more like this. Trump will make hints and companies cave. I don’t know how you get around this.

marble falls

(70,074 posts)
57. ABC realized that they forgot who they serve. Advertisers and audience, not politicians. ...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:00 PM
Sep 18

... of course on second thought they want Jimmie back, I think Jimmie's playing the stronger hand right now.

senseandsensibility

(24,163 posts)
67. CNN has run the same chyron today and I heard refetences
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:05 PM
Sep 19

to wanting Kimmel back on MSNBC this morning too. Sam Stein said he's hearing that ABC wants Kimmel back, but Alex Witt just cut him off and didn't ask for details.

Blue Full Moon

(3,071 posts)
60. They are not doing that well to begin with.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:25 PM
Sep 18

Jimmy Kimmel and his crew by the time they are through suing will end up owing it.

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