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MayReasonRule

(4,137 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:42 AM Sep 2025

ICE just took one of the protesters inside the facility. This is the first time that's ever happened.

This happened about 15 minutes ago. ICE just took one of the protesters inside the facility. This is the first time that’s ever happened.

Join us at 1930 Beach Street. Free our friend. Free our neighbors. Shut down this facility.

Kat Abughazaleh (@katmabu.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T11:27:26.969Z
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ICE just took one of the protesters inside the facility. This is the first time that's ever happened. (Original Post) MayReasonRule Sep 2025 OP
What does took them mean, arrest? Blues Heron Sep 2025 #1
It Means Taken And Disappeared Inside The Nazi's Bunker And Gulag MayReasonRule Sep 2025 #3
I would use the word kidnap instead of arrest. gab13by13 Sep 2025 #4
Watch videos if you can Pachamama Sep 2025 #2
History Offers Multiple Instances When A Shift From Mass Protest To Armed Insurgency Or Guerrillaa Tactics Have Occurred MayReasonRule Sep 2025 #7
A state or city would help for context muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #5
It looks like Broadview, IL, western Chicago nuxvomica Sep 2025 #6

gab13by13

(32,746 posts)
4. I would use the word kidnap instead of arrest.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:53 AM
Sep 2025

Peaceful protest, I think, is still legal in the US.

Pachamama

(17,565 posts)
2. Watch videos if you can
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:47 AM
Sep 2025

I’m going to say it… it’s getting worse and I fear what ICE is going to do to protesters next…

MayReasonRule

(4,137 posts)
7. History Offers Multiple Instances When A Shift From Mass Protest To Armed Insurgency Or Guerrillaa Tactics Have Occurred
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:49 AM
Sep 2025

Scenarios where protests can escalate to guerrilla warfare

Violent state repression: When authorities respond to peaceful protests with brutality, force, and mass arrests, they can radicalize some segments of the protest movement. This can lead participants to conclude that nonviolent methods are futile and that armed resistance is necessary to achieve their goals.

Example: The Watts Riots of 1965 occurred after years of unaddressed grievances and police brutality toward Black Americans, leading to a wave of urban unrest. Similarly, the brutal suppression of the 1968 student protests in various countries contributed to the fracturing of the activist landscape and the rise of more militant factions.

Failed reform processes: In some cases, governments may begin a reform process only to have it stall or be perceived as a facade. If peaceful efforts through sanctioned political channels fail to deliver meaningful change, frustrated activists may turn to more extreme measures.

The influence of radical ideology: Some movements may splinter, with more radical elements deciding to abandon broad-based, nonviolent action in favor of a targeted, militant approach. This can happen when a core group concludes that gradual, systemic change is impossible.

Exhaustion of mass mobilization: Maintaining a high level of mass mobilization for extended periods is difficult. When protests eventually scale back, activists must decide on their next steps. If a protest movement lacks clear strategic objectives or the capacity to transition to electoral or institutional efforts, its momentum can be lost. This vacuum may then be filled by more militant groups.

Historical context: Historically, guerrilla warfare has often been a tactic of the weaker side in a conflict. It is a rational response for groups that lack the resources for a conventional war against a more powerful, organized state.

Additional Example - The Vietnam War: The American anti-war movement featured demonstrators who at times engaged in violent clashes with police and attacked university ROTC facilities, alienating some Americans who were otherwise opposed to the war. However, the broader conflict in Vietnam was also defined by a highly effective, decades-long guerrilla war waged by Communist forces.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,575 posts)
5. A state or city would help for context
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:06 AM
Sep 2025

Maybe everyone in a certain city know the address of their ICE lockup is "Beach St", but I doubt it,

nuxvomica

(14,194 posts)
6. It looks like Broadview, IL, western Chicago
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:08 AM
Sep 2025

The building matched when I compared to Google maps.

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