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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVance said at Kirk's memorial that he has spoken the name of Jesus Christ more in the last two weeks than
in all the years before.
I believe him. This is all a dog and pony show.
Sneederbunk
(17,640 posts)Lovie777
(23,741 posts)MrWowWow
(1,461 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 21, 2025, 07:12 PM - Edit history (1)
Never Say Anything Bad About the Dead. He's dead. Good.
-Bette Davis
(Paraphrased)
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Wiz Imp
(10,416 posts)It's: You should never say bad things about the dead, you should only say good . . . He is dead. Good.
And her name is spelled Bette, Not Betty
Henry203
(964 posts)In denouncing lgbt, women and African Americans.
Blue Full Moon
(3,651 posts)usonian
(26,593 posts)Stuff falls on the floor, computers refuse to behave (1), power goes out when I'm posting a long rant.
But, I am polite. My grandmother used to say.
Gesu Cristo. Aiuto me!
So I add the "help me"
Just in case.
(1) So get this. I'm posting on the phone, and all the buttons stop working. Bold, Italic, preview, post, the whole 9 yards. I found, after 10 or so tries, that hitting RETURN would force a preview, and things worked again. A little less swearing now?
erpowers
(9,446 posts)Well, that seems to be more of a him (J.D. Vance) problem than an America or World problem. If he did actually say "the name of Jesus Christ more in the last two weeks than in all the years before" that was his choice.
Abolishinist
(3,053 posts)
muriel_volestrangler
(106,599 posts)as this has presented.
Kirk himself had seen how tying himself to Christian Nationalism was an opportunity for advancement and wealth, so changed from secular to forcing god onto people:
...
Kirk had been an evangelical Christian since childhood but earlier in his career expressed reluctance at politicizing his religious views. That changed during the peak of the early pandemic, when Kirk made the acquaintance of several charismatic megachurch pastors protesting church lockdowns. He began to traffic in ideas influenced by the NAR, including the seven-mountain mandate. Turning Point USA also began to forge partnerships with churches.
Kirks own evolution was striking: he went from saying, in 2018, that it was important that Christians respect the separation of church and state to denying that any such separation existed in the US constitution.
Kirk never used the exact phrase seven-mountain mandate, Boedy said, but at a Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in 2020 Kirk praised Trump by saying: Finally, we have a president who understands the seven mountains of cultural influence, which was one of the most prominent mentions of the concept in the conservative mainstream. Kirk also attended conferences organized around the theme of the seven-mountain mandate.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/20/charlie-kirk-martyr-christian-nationalist-movement
Vance wants to take over the following Kirk had. Kirk's widow may want to use it too, of course.
sinkingfeeling
(58,039 posts)Emile
(43,270 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(182,048 posts)This was really a MAGA grifting session and not a memorial


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