Winner of mRNA Nobel Prize says ACIP member's claim that Covid vaccines persist is "absolutely impossible

[lostincalifornia]

"On Thursday and Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention held a meeting of its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a key panel that gives the CDC’s director guidance about what vaccines to recommend to the public.

The panel, in the end, postponed its most controversial vote and made recommendations that seemed aimed at fostering doubts about the Covid-19 vaccines while still keeping them widely available. But some presenters and panelists raised concerns that the mRNA Covid vaccines – the ones made by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech – may have unconfirmed safety issues.

In particular, Retsef Levi, who chairs ACIP’s working group on Covid vaccines, raised concerns that mRNA, the lipid nanoparticles they are encapsulated in, and the spike protein the vaccines produce may all persist and be widely distributed in the body. He also said they may provoke an immune response that is not understood and could even change the way the body reads its own genetic material. Moderna and Pfizer said that the claims were refuted by well-done studies that met global regulatory standards."

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"What these people do, is that they search, they find one paper or two papers that make an outlandish claim based on bad data that hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of other papers refute, they don’t mention everything that refutes it. They only mention, oh, look, I found a paper that says spike is around for nine months! It’s just not true."

https://www.statnews.com/2025/09/20/drew-weissman-nobel-prize-mrna-covid-vaccines-rebuts-retsef-levi-claims/

[Gimpyknee]

1. You can't cite scientific facts to these morons.

[poozwah]

3. weary

in spite of all the evidence showing the effectiveness of vaccines, they persist in supporting these theories which hinder the efforts of legitimate scientists. science, not sighence.

[dalton99a]

15. +1. They are willfully ignorant and proud of it.

[popsdenver]

24. As Trump has said publicly

time and time again................."I LOVE THE UN-EDUCATED VOTERS"

[yardwork]

2. Ironically, it's the COVID virus itself that "provokes an immune response that is not understood."

These people are beyond stupid. They are criminally stupid. They have a profit motive.

[LymphocyteLover]

5. Yes! That has always been so aggravating that these morons couldn't understand or didn't want to understand

that the virus infection was ALWAYS WAY worse than the vaccination.

[travelingthrulife]

18. Also aggravating was so many thinking that we could go through a global pandemic killing

millions without any impact to our economy and personal lives.

[niyad]

7. what flavour pizza ?

[yardwork]

20. I missed it! Did she mention me by name?

[niyad]

21. No, she was doing her insane anti-covid vaccine rant.

[yardwork]

25. Damn. I prefer the off-base personal attacks.

They're more entertaining.

[niyad]

30. Well, she did start off with "you're stupid", directed to the OP.

[flvegan]

8. First post, huh?

[niyad]

11. one of our resident trolls, no doubt.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. No doubt

But she was (personally) taken care of.

[niyad]

16. But of course. Are we taking bets on how many times she shows up today?

[BumRushDaShow]

17. First time today

and twice yesterday, but 5 times the day before. It's a New Moon, so that impacts it too.

[niyad]

19. Goodness, I missed all of them!

[niyad]

29. Apparently she came back, judging by the twe removals further downthread.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. That was her 5th appearance today

Was wondering if she would run into you again.

[niyad]

32. Geeeee, and I missed her. Wonder if I hurt her widdle fee fees?

Seems fitting that I was actually out shopping for pest removal items!

[BumRushDaShow]

34. That would have definitely been needed!

[niyad]

9. yawnnnnn. right on schedule

[Celerity]

10. Bye Bye 👋

[Rebl2]

33. Exactly

[LymphocyteLover]

4. this administration uses the opposite of science for what they do. They have a pre-determined

conclusion and use any data possible even made up, to support it, while throwing out contradictory data.

[UTUSN]

12. K&R

[dalton99a]

14. Kick

[markodochartaigh]

26. Unfortunately,

another way that the covid vaccines don't persist is in public availability. Here in Florida they were briefly available at CVS last week. By the time that I found out and tried to get an appointment they were pulled due to the state's regulations. Now neither Publix, CVS, nor Walgreens know when or if they will have them again.

[Midnight Writer]

27. Who you gonna listen to? The Nobel Prize guy or the guy who picks up a dead bear and dumps it in Central Park?

If you are MAGA, you have to go with the dead bear guy or risk excommunication or worse.