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tblue37

(68,444 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:48 PM Sep 2025

More than 1500 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz.

More than 1800 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz. Their families and lawyers can’t find them and they’ve vanished from the ICE database. Feels like this should be a much bigger story www.miamiherald.com/news/local/i...

Laura Bassett (@lebassett.bsky.social) 2025-09-23T17:39:33.074Z
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More than 1500 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz. (Original Post) tblue37 Sep 2025 OP
You know that cup scam where a marble is moved around under 3 cups so you can't figure out tblue37 Sep 2025 #1
That's assuming they're still alive... regnaD kciN Sep 2025 #4
Fat alligators? maveric Sep 2025 #2
They're dead and this administration will be guilty of genocide kimbutgar Sep 2025 #3
If true, a MUCH bigger story for sure. B.See Sep 2025 #5
K&R B.See Sep 2025 #15
In separate news, the market for "donated" organs in the US jumped and now eclipses the Chinese market. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #6
Yikes! some_of_us_are_sane Sep 2025 #8
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For struggle4progress Sep 2025 #7
First, Alligator Alcatraz Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #9
Thanks. tblue37 Sep 2025 #10
As the article points out, there is a federal database and these people are missing from there too LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #13
The facility is run by Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #14
Is the fl division of emergency management a public document? Marthe48 Sep 2025 #20
I'm not sure how it works Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #22
1800....where the f are they? spanone Sep 2025 #11
Horrifying! I do hope there is a non-death camp explanation for this. LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #12
2 options Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #16
Or they sold them Bettie Sep 2025 #17
K&R. Because if Trump can disappear these people with nary a whisper, B.See Sep 2025 #18
This is anti-Christian in extremis Champp Sep 2025 #19
It's potentially WAY more than that. B.See Sep 2025 #21

tblue37

(68,444 posts)
1. You know that cup scam where a marble is moved around under 3 cups so you can't figure out
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:51 PM
Sep 2025

where it could possibly be?

regnaD kciN

(27,673 posts)
4. That's assuming they're still alive...
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:55 PM
Sep 2025

Who needs crematoria when you’ve got alligators?

kimbutgar

(27,366 posts)
3. They're dead and this administration will be guilty of genocide
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sep 2025

I wouldn’t put it past them.

B.See

(8,604 posts)
5. If true, a MUCH bigger story for sure.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:00 PM
Sep 2025

On top of all the other "should've been bigger stories" relating to Trump's immigration scandals and his ICE gestapo-like actions.

Families, lawyers can't find them? Disappeared from ICE database?? Whatever can it mean?

Smells like straight up NAZI shit to me.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. In separate news, the market for "donated" organs in the US jumped and now eclipses the Chinese market. . . . nt
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:02 PM
Sep 2025
 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
9. First, Alligator Alcatraz
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:41 PM
Sep 2025

is not closed. Second, they didn't vanish from the ICE database. They were never in the database because Alligator Alcatraz is a State run facility.

LymphocyteLover

(9,957 posts)
13. As the article points out, there is a federal database and these people are missing from there too
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:32 PM
Sep 2025
 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
14. The facility is run by
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:38 PM
Sep 2025

the Florida Division of Emergency Management. The detainees at Alligator Alcatraz are not in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, hence the absence of their names in the federal database.

Marthe48

(23,271 posts)
20. Is the fl division of emergency management a public document?
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:42 PM
Sep 2025

Is there any public record of the people who were sent to that place by i.c.e ? Or any of the other detainment camps?

Why can't their families and lawyers get in touch with 1800 people?



 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
22. I'm not sure how it works
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:40 PM
Sep 2025

if ICE arrests someone and then sends them to a State run facility. I would assume the State has records, but don't really know.

Johnny2X2X

(24,320 posts)
16. 2 options
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:22 PM
Sep 2025

Either these people are dead. Or the numbers were inflated in order to make money.

Bettie

(19,787 posts)
17. Or they sold them
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:24 PM
Sep 2025

as slaves and don't want any records.

Who the fuck knows what the monsters in charge of this would to do people.

B.See

(8,604 posts)
18. K&R. Because if Trump can disappear these people with nary a whisper,
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:29 PM
Sep 2025

he can disappear the rest of us as well.

Alligator Alcatraz Is an ‘Extrajudicial Black Site,’ Immigrant Advocates Say as Detainees Disappear - Common Dreams

According to the Miami Herald, over 1,000 detainees in Florida’s immigrant internment camp have effectively “disappeared,” with family and attorneys unable to track their whereabouts.

Reporters found that around 800 of the people on the rosters do not appear on Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Online Detainee Locator System, which provides publicly available information about the court status and locations of people who have been jailed by immigration enforcement. Another 450 had no location listed and instead merely instructed users to “Call ICE for details.”

The Herald also found that the vast majority of the detainees in the system did not have final orders of removal issued against them by immigration judges, which would be required for their deportation. Nevertheless, the detainees’ families and attorneys have been left unable to find them.

Champp

(2,409 posts)
19. This is anti-Christian in extremis
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:34 PM
Sep 2025

why do Republicans hate and disrespect the teachings of Christ?

This is outright evil.

B.See

(8,604 posts)
21. It's potentially WAY more than that.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 2025

At what point, I wonder, does something like this garner appropriate outrage? Picked up, abducted, then disappeared?

At what point do we begin mentioning words like criminal, 'atrocity,' and such?

When 2000 disappear? Five thousand? 10? 20? 40? a million? or more?

Conversely, Is the loss of any ONE, if incarcerated and spirited away under dubious if not devious means, of lesser importance, especially to their wives, children, family members,

than the loss of another? Do they not also mourn?

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