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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm a little freaked out now by this ICE shooting as now they are saying the guy was Antifa and a Communist
and he wrote anti-ICE on the bullets.
WAY too convenient. This thing stinks to heaven.
Sorry to use Alex Jones as a source but he's pretty indicative of this sort of thing. Lots of other similar posts.
Link to tweet
https://x.com/search?q=ICE%20shooting%20Joshua%20Jahn&src=recent_search_click
mercuryblues
(16,382 posts)Has lied about a shooting.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,800 posts)attacks on the left
bdamomma
(69,508 posts)won't be happy until there is an all-out pitting Americans against Americans. He's just itching to call the insurrection act then martial law.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,277 posts)That most terrorist shootings are by white males. Most democrats had a wait and see attitude but it was the right that wanted to kill leftists. Oh Antifa is now the right wing boogeyman. There is no both sides. Its just a bunch of right wing stooges and a complicit media.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,461 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,697 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,800 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(8,710 posts)Initech
(108,648 posts)Fuck Steve Bannon and fuck Donald Trump!
bdamomma
(69,508 posts)I bet is involved.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,461 posts)Evrytingfinemon
(12 posts)I know I am beating a dead horse and that horse called Justice for All has and always will be dead before it ever was written.
OLDMDDEM
(3,169 posts)ImNotGod
(1,194 posts)a tRump fascist reality show.
johnnyfins
(3,746 posts)A "Solar" company?? Come on. Why did he shoot detainees, then??
leftstreet
(40,445 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,800 posts)regnaD kciN
(27,626 posts)unless it comes with engraved bullets?
sop
(18,506 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,800 posts)sop
(18,506 posts)Traildogbob
(13,002 posts)FBI, ATF, Dallas Police, HHS, Alex, Ka$h, and Fux. Well then, its settled as fact. No lying among those good Christians. When KKKaroLYIN, says it, it will be factual, she wear a cross.
Initech
(108,648 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,008 posts)There are no commies anymore. Socialists exist, but communism is all but defunct.
EX500rider
(12,552 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,008 posts)let the world know.
carpetbagger
(5,480 posts)I mean, dude shot the immigrants and not the brown shirts.
yardwork
(69,301 posts)We can't conclude beyond that. The kids tossing these memes around aren't aligned with any particular group or ideology. They think everything is a joke.
Quiet Em
(2,906 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Quiet Em
(2,906 posts)Reports are he was living in Durant, Oklahoma. That could be where he was registered to vote.
RockRaven
(19,275 posts)the useful narrative gets locked in their audience's minds before any inconvenient truths become known.
Torchlight
(6,759 posts)RW leadership exploits its position to affix blame while Statler and Waldorf assert that idle speculation on a message board is just as egregious.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,052 posts)until I hear it from a legitimate source, and in this regime, I don't know who that would be, I'll continue to be highly skeptical of any statement coming from them.
FalloutShelter
(14,434 posts)And not brown shirts?
WTAF?
durablend
(9,243 posts)Those leftists are canny!
FalloutShelter
(14,434 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,919 posts)If they were to shoot at anyone, they'd shoot at ICE themselves.
yellow dahlia
(5,760 posts)Like I said, they never let logic dissuade from their narrative.
Deep State Witch
(12,701 posts)According to NBC News, who spoke to the shooter's brother, he was "not especially political"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/dallas-ice-facility-shooting-rcna233385/rcrd89359?canonicalCard=true
ICE facility in Dallas said his brother was not especially interested in politics and had not voiced opinions to his family opposing the federal immigration enforcement agency.
The suspect, Joshua Jahn, 29, allegedly shot himself after opening fire on the facility Wednesday, killing two ICE detainees and wounding one other. Law enforcement officials said bullets recovered near the shooters body had anti-ICE messages scrawled on them.
He didnt have strong feelings about ICE as far as I knew, said Noah Jahn, Joshuas older brother.
NBC News spoke to Noah Jahn before he had gotten word that his brother was identified as the shooter. Noah described his brother as unique without elaborating. But he said Joshua was not one he would have ever thought would be involved in a politically motivated shooting.
I didnt think he was politically interested, Noah Jahn said. He wasnt interested in politics on either side as far as I knew.
yellow dahlia
(5,760 posts)But here is the logical question. If he were a "lefty", why didn't he kill the ICE agents instead of the detainees?
Of course the RW propaganda feedback loop never lets logic or facts get in the way of their narrative.
They keep coming up with scenarios to try and go after the "left". They aren't working (Egs: Butler, PA; Kirk shooting) , so they keep looking for more.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,710 posts)...but we also don't know (or at least I haven't seen it) how far away he was and whether or not he'd had much exposure to firearms, trained to shoot, hunting, etc.
Distance and skill contributes to being able to hit the "correct" target, for lack of a better term.
yellow dahlia
(5,760 posts)And of course, analysis and evidence don't matter to the RW feedback loop either.
misanthrope
(9,479 posts)His motive was immaterial because the cause was mental illness.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,710 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,919 posts)He could have missed his target by being a poor shot. But I've seen nothing yet that would support or disprove that.
yellow dahlia
(5,760 posts)Some time and analysis is warranted.
MichMan
(17,104 posts)I assume he probably knows him as well as anyone.
OC375
(888 posts)I wish everyone would wait a good 48 hours before anything substantial is released to the public. I can't think of a single recent tragedy that hasn't been reported "wrong" initially, and all the requisite nashing of teeth as the blame ball moves this direction and that which inevitably follows. It's, frankly, embarrassing and dehumanizing and we should be better than that.
newdeal2
(5,359 posts)We used to be concerned about the victims mostly at first and let the investigation unfold. Now its people pointing fingers based on old Facebook posts or voter rolls.
bigtree
(94,171 posts)...Putinites.
kimbutgar
(27,220 posts)Perhaps to make the media not talk about this orange turds horrible speech at the UN and how he is making the US a pariah nation.
I think the bullets are bs and the photo is staged by google eyed Patel and his minions.
The Wizard
(13,715 posts)align with fascism and believe it's a good character trait?
DET
(2,489 posts)I think we can expect an event of this nature each time Trump makes a fool of himself in public - which means almost daily. Of course, it will be so ineptly done and badly staged that anyone with two brain cells can see right through it. Which means that the MAGAts will fall for it every time.
EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN!!
They have to have a daily distraction so people don't talk about this EPSTEIN stuff so much.
BannonsLiver
(20,542 posts)Nobody should ever take anything they say at face value. If Patel and Pammy tell you its a cloudy day you best be peeking out the window.
My guess is they will have a harder time spinning up the leftistantifatransactivist narrative on this one than they did with CK. But it wont stop them from trying. Every incident like this will be blamed on the left and they will shoe horn that by any means necessary moving forward. And I want to underscore that by any means necessary part.
MurrayDelph
(5,748 posts)
SSJVegeta
(2,823 posts)haele
(15,370 posts)BTW, I saw that grinning "thumbs up" bearded communist picture has been used as part of the meme response "Cool story, Comrade Bro" years ago.
I think it came from a Manga or a graphic novel around 2005 - 2015, sometime when my stepdaughter was in middle school or high school.
obamanut2012
(29,338 posts)Doodley
(11,877 posts)Bread and Circuses
(1,994 posts)Shoot into a car? He was a Roof? He would have a clear shoot at the agents.
And writing Anti-Ice on a bullet, is way too convenient.
misanthrope
(9,479 posts)They used transphobia last time. You don't want the audience to get bored, after all.
This time they are pulling out the traditional "Communist" angle (because some hits always produce) and pairing it with The Big Oompa's recent imperial decree slapping antifa with a new designation as "terrorist." In the corporate world, they might have called it synergy, you see.
Wiz Imp
(9,919 posts)EVERY shooting for the future on "radical leftists"? It's what they do. They don't care about the truth. Everything must be politicized against their "enemies". Nobody should ever get freaked out by that - 99% of the time their claims will be wrong.
Hassler
(4,916 posts)FrankBooth
(1,851 posts)Of course they are going to blame the left for the incident, whether it's true (which is rare) or not, in which case they will just BLAME US ANYWAY (which is what happens most of the time.)
Our side has to stop freaking out over these things, it doesn't help and in fact is exactly what they want us to be...reactive and off balance. It makes us look bad to always be freaking out about things we have no control over.
LymphocyteLover
(9,800 posts)they will use as a pretext to further and more extreme fascist clampdowns
FrankBooth
(1,851 posts)They will seize on any news and twist and distort it, whether the news is real or manufactured...that's a given. All we can do is control how we react to their manipulation and lies.
Autumn
(48,949 posts)but they lie about everything so who cares. As dor the bullet casing I haven't seen one yet so I know that's a lie just like the guy who killed Kirk supposedly signed his bullets. I have seen no proof at all. They lie.