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[SSJVegeta]

1. Umm... so did I

Like. Did you see what happened in Wayne County?

[Jack Valentino]

2. Wayne County Michigan?? Anyway, tell us...

[SSJVegeta]

4. Dearborn didnt vote for Harris. By a lot.

The results coming in were really obvious.

[Jack Valentino]

7. Ah yeah, of course.... Kamala started out with a little separation between her

and Joe on that issue (God bless him, but he was WRONG on the Gaza war
when it continued forever)---

but the Wayne County muslims made a huge mistake,
and where are we now???

That issue probably lost Michigan for the Democratic presidential nominee,
but much less so elsewhere... where we probably lost the election
because of the economy and inflation,
regardless of logical arguments about it....

[SSJVegeta]

11. Polling actually consistently showed it a key issue in all swing states

[Jack Valentino]

14. but there were many more muslim voters in Michigan than any other swing states....

mostly due to the concentration in Dearborn and Wayne County.


Yes, the issue hurt us elsewhere as well,
but not nearly as much as in Michigan
(my home state, so I was extremely aware of the problem here)

[SSJVegeta]

15. Muslims were not the only ones who thought genocide was worth not voting -or worse

...voting for Trump.


Exit polling proved that Trump peeled off a good number of traditionally liberal demographics from Harris' expected base.

[Jack Valentino]

17. Not claiming that they were--- there were a lot of younger people who felt the same as well---

but purely by demographic numbers, that probably made the difference in Michigan.

[SSJVegeta]

18. It wasnt the only thing thay flipped michigan. She lost key groups all around. Not just in Michigan

When you are losing your own base, it's time to fold.

[Silent Type]

3. It was apparent to anyone paying attention that trump would likely win. I suspect VP Harris supporters

felt the same.

[SSJVegeta]

5. I told my maga friends congrats and went home early. Even they were like "what do you mean?!"

[Silent Type]

6. Was hopeful, and expected it to be several days before votes were counted. Ended quickly, with

same sick feeling as 2016. Thank gawd for another chance in midterms.

[SSJVegeta]

12. 🤞

[Jack Valentino]

8. it was not 'apparent' to ME, and I WAS 'paying attention'---

and I WAS a big supporter of VP Harris after President Biden dropped out---


'Blanket' statements like you are making here are offensive.

[Silent Type]

9. Sorry, but that's what I believe. You can believe what you want.

[Jack Valentino]

10. you can believe what you want, without insulting the rest of us

by implying that you were somehow "smarter" than the rest of us!

[Silent Type]

13. Same back.

[Jack Valentino]

16. I didn't insult your intelligence here, or imply that I am 'smarter' than you.

You clearly did that with your blanket statements.