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Tanuki

(16,508 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:08 PM Sep 2025

LDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford

(Apologies for NYPost source)
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/


"The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.

Sanford, a US Marine veteran, according to his mom’s Facebook page, rammed his Chevy Silverado truck into the building before unleashing the assault on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, armed with a semi-automatic rifle."... (more)

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LDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford (Original Post) Tanuki Sep 2025 OP
Bet he was a raging leftist radical. nt intrepidity Sep 2025 #1
looks trans Takket Sep 2025 #2
There have been several claims he had a trump/Vance sign posted outside his house Coldwater Sep 2025 #11
Pics Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #36
We won't know for sure.... SergeStorms Sep 2025 #34
The rush to blame it on politics and one side. Yet the guy is probably like most of these shooters-- someone who needed Silent Type Sep 2025 #3
You fail to understand that this is defensive on our part because the entire machinery of the current US government Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #19
It's been going on for years before trump. Besides, we don't have to be like GOPers. Silent Type Sep 2025 #23
About time we fought fire with fire. Liberal In Texas Sep 2025 #28
Because "keeping our powder dry"..... SergeStorms Sep 2025 #35
The reason this is important Diraven Sep 2025 #40
What a strange photo. I assume he's holding a child and the bird? hlthe2b Sep 2025 #4
He's holding the kid who is holding the bird Kaleva Sep 2025 #6
Noem enid602 Sep 2025 #33
Too many hands. Ping Tung Sep 2025 #7
Something does seem odd about the kid's hands/arms. Abolishinist Sep 2025 #10
Because he is turned toward the left Kaleva Sep 2025 #12
He is holding the child belly to belly sarisataka Sep 2025 #14
Thanks, looking at it again I see his head is turned, now it makes sense. Abolishinist Sep 2025 #18
I only see 4 Kaleva Sep 2025 #13
Hmmmm Traildogbob Sep 2025 #5
NC shooter was a white vet as well. Mental health issues, availability of weapons, anger... 617Blue Sep 2025 #8
This psycho is a one-man army Coldwater Sep 2025 #9
Sounds Rebl2 Sep 2025 #15
Or it's in retaliation for the killing of Kirk Kaleva Sep 2025 #16
This is pretty much how I pictured he'd look Siwsan Sep 2025 #17
I refuse to accept anything from the NYComPost at face value... regnaD kciN Sep 2025 #20
It's kind of difficult to do when n you have an image like this JI7 Sep 2025 #22
So I'm guessing we won't be hearing much about this anymore JI7 Sep 2025 #21
CORRECT Skittles Sep 2025 #29
Killers often begin with animals IbogaProject Sep 2025 #24
ugh, anyone who finds killing entertaining Skittles Sep 2025 #30
Aw, poor bird. calimary Sep 2025 #25
When it's a straight white dude it's a 'deranged madman' SeattleVet Sep 2025 #26
All those mean lefties trans rhetorics are making the gun toting magats react by shooting up Liberal In Texas Sep 2025 #31
Trump's "crackdown on crime" can't do shit about Klarkashton Sep 2025 #27
Right? intheflow Sep 2025 #39
Get used to it folks, it's only going to get worse. With criminals running the government, the courts, the JD, people ImNotGod Sep 2025 #32
I do think it's connected to the NC shooting. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author DownriverDem Sep 2025 #38
Another case of--MAGACIDE! Brought to you by Trump, Inc. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #41
I wonder how many learn to kill Tree Lady Sep 2025 #42
Aren't ya proud, sonny! choie Sep 2025 #43

Coldwater

(1,343 posts)
11. There have been several claims he had a trump/Vance sign posted outside his house
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:42 PM
Sep 2025

but after a few false claims already this morning/afternoon I'm a bit suspicious until I actually see the sign.

SergeStorms

(20,808 posts)
34. We won't know for sure....
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:33 PM
Sep 2025

until the paint dries on the shell casings Kash Patel is supplying to the media.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. The rush to blame it on politics and one side. Yet the guy is probably like most of these shooters-- someone who needed
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:18 PM
Sep 2025

mental health diagnosis and treatment, though not in his 20s like most shooters since Oswald.

Crunchy Frog

(28,299 posts)
19. You fail to understand that this is defensive on our part because the entire machinery of the current US government
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:59 PM
Sep 2025

is trying to paint this and other similar events as some vast left wing terrorist conspiracy. And they have stated their intent to go after any individual or group that they can paint as "supporting left wing violence". And they mean us. So yes, we're going to point it out when these perpetrators of violence don't fit the profile or the narrative that they're pushing.

Diraven

(1,949 posts)
40. The reason this is important
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:20 PM
Sep 2025

Is that Trump and his goons are just waiting for one more attack they can pin on an "indoctrinated left wing radical" to start their violent fantasy crackdown on liberals, Democrats, trans people, and anyone who supports or funds them as "terrorists". It's a literal powder keg, and unfortunately we have to keep diffusing it. And unfortunately they'll probably get their way eventually because it doesn't matter how many right wing radical murders happen they will conveniently ignore because they don't fit their agenda, before that one that they can blame on us.

hlthe2b

(114,675 posts)
4. What a strange photo. I assume he's holding a child and the bird?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:20 PM
Sep 2025

Perhaps without the blurring of the face (?) it would be less bizarre.

Abolishinist

(3,052 posts)
10. Something does seem odd about the kid's hands/arms.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:38 PM
Sep 2025

His arms seem too long. And why is he in such a twisted position, holding the bird with his left hand vs. the right.

sarisataka

(22,835 posts)
14. He is holding the child belly to belly
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:48 PM
Sep 2025

The child is rotating their body to face the camera. At first glance it isn't obvious due to the camo. Once the positioning is deciphered, there is nothing wrong with the proportions

Abolishinist

(3,052 posts)
18. Thanks, looking at it again I see his head is turned, now it makes sense.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:58 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Traildogbob

(13,160 posts)
5. Hmmmm
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:21 PM
Sep 2025

Duck Dynasty Fox freak? If it looks, walks and smells like a Duck….eliminate all religion that is not the Megan Kelly White one.
Petal Will recover a bullet with a detailed radical lib confession on the casing, like those skilled Asians write a book on a grain of rice.

 

617Blue

(2,526 posts)
8. NC shooter was a white vet as well. Mental health issues, availability of weapons, anger...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
Sep 2025

Siwsan

(27,891 posts)
17. This is pretty much how I pictured he'd look
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:54 PM
Sep 2025

Classic Burton resident. Lots of good people in Burton. Too many MAGAt, though.

regnaD kciN

(27,699 posts)
20. I refuse to accept anything from the NYComPost at face value...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:13 PM
Sep 2025

…but note that, normally, their “unconfirmed information” tends to echo the MAGA line, so the fact that they’re not identifying the assailant as a “trans ANTIFA Marxist” may be telling.

JI7

(93,900 posts)
22. It's kind of difficult to do when n you have an image like this
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:24 PM
Sep 2025

What will happen is they will just stop talking about it and pretend it never happened just as they do with Colorado and the Pennsylvania shooting that killed multiple law enforcement recently.

Skittles

(172,852 posts)
29. CORRECT
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:16 PM
Sep 2025

only if the shooter is trans or an immigrant (or if the victim is a racist celebrity)

Skittles

(172,852 posts)
30. ugh, anyone who finds killing entertaining
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:17 PM
Sep 2025

gotta love the ones who photograph their victory over......a duck

SeattleVet

(5,932 posts)
26. When it's a straight white dude it's a 'deranged madman'
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:08 PM
Sep 2025

If it's anyone else they somehow transform into a trans dem leftist.

Liberal In Texas

(16,425 posts)
31. All those mean lefties trans rhetorics are making the gun toting magats react by shooting up
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sep 2025

a church or a mall or a rightwing podcaster or ...

See it's actually the radical left. (Radical Left = Anybody against Trump)


Klarkashton

(5,417 posts)
27. Trump's "crackdown on crime" can't do shit about
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:10 PM
Sep 2025

These mass murders.

I'll bet trump says nothing much about this one.

intheflow

(30,249 posts)
39. Right?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:23 PM
Sep 2025

The real violence isn’t happening in blue cities, it’s happening in rural heartland kind of places. And it sure as hell isn’t being done by immigrants, asylum seekers, POC, women, or antifa.

ImNotGod

(1,214 posts)
32. Get used to it folks, it's only going to get worse. With criminals running the government, the courts, the JD, people
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:20 PM
Sep 2025

are being groomed to be lawless, take what they want, do what they want. We are watching the breakdown of our society and no one can stop it.

Blue Full Moon

(3,650 posts)
37. I do think it's connected to the NC shooting.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sep 2025

Both 40 yr old Iraq war vets.
Reminds me of the Las Vegas and New Orleans attacks.

Response to Tanuki (Original post)

choie

(6,991 posts)
43. Aren't ya proud, sonny!
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:53 PM
Sep 2025

I killed a bird that had no way to defend himself. Look at that blood! Aren't guns great?

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