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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford
(Apologies for NYPost source)
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/
"The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.
Sanford, a US Marine veteran, according to his moms Facebook page, rammed his Chevy Silverado truck into the building before unleashing the assault on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, armed with a semi-automatic rifle."... (more)

intrepidity
(8,595 posts)Takket
(23,802 posts)Coldwater
(1,343 posts)but after a few false claims already this morning/afternoon I'm a bit suspicious until I actually see the sign.
Blue Full Moon
(3,650 posts)SergeStorms
(20,808 posts)until the paint dries on the shell casings Kash Patel is supplying to the media.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)mental health diagnosis and treatment, though not in his 20s like most shooters since Oswald.
Crunchy Frog
(28,299 posts)is trying to paint this and other similar events as some vast left wing terrorist conspiracy. And they have stated their intent to go after any individual or group that they can paint as "supporting left wing violence". And they mean us. So yes, we're going to point it out when these perpetrators of violence don't fit the profile or the narrative that they're pushing.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Liberal In Texas
(16,425 posts)SergeStorms
(20,808 posts)has worked so well for us since the mid-90s.
Diraven
(1,949 posts)Is that Trump and his goons are just waiting for one more attack they can pin on an "indoctrinated left wing radical" to start their violent fantasy crackdown on liberals, Democrats, trans people, and anyone who supports or funds them as "terrorists". It's a literal powder keg, and unfortunately we have to keep diffusing it. And unfortunately they'll probably get their way eventually because it doesn't matter how many right wing radical murders happen they will conveniently ignore because they don't fit their agenda, before that one that they can blame on us.
hlthe2b
(114,675 posts)Perhaps without the blurring of the face (?) it would be less bizarre.
Kaleva
(40,431 posts)The child looks like she could be a young Kristi Noem.
Ping Tung
(4,370 posts)Abolishinist
(3,052 posts)His arms seem too long. And why is he in such a twisted position, holding the bird with his left hand vs. the right.
Kaleva
(40,431 posts)sarisataka
(22,835 posts)The child is rotating their body to face the camera. At first glance it isn't obvious due to the camo. Once the positioning is deciphered, there is nothing wrong with the proportions
Abolishinist
(3,052 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)
Kaleva
(40,431 posts)Traildogbob
(13,160 posts)Duck Dynasty Fox freak? If it looks, walks and smells like a Duck
.eliminate all religion that is not the Megan Kelly White one.
Petal Will recover a bullet with a detailed radical lib confession on the casing, like those skilled Asians write a book on a grain of rice.
617Blue
(2,526 posts)Coldwater
(1,343 posts)
?ve=1&tl=1Like angry white veteran who thinks LDS not Christian enough for him.
Kaleva
(40,431 posts)Robinson was raised as a Mormon
Siwsan
(27,891 posts)Classic Burton resident. Lots of good people in Burton. Too many MAGAt, though.
regnaD kciN
(27,699 posts)but note that, normally, their unconfirmed information tends to echo the MAGA line, so the fact that theyre not identifying the assailant as a trans ANTIFA Marxist may be telling.
JI7
(93,900 posts)What will happen is they will just stop talking about it and pretend it never happened just as they do with Colorado and the Pennsylvania shooting that killed multiple law enforcement recently.
JI7
(93,900 posts)only if the shooter is trans or an immigrant (or if the victim is a racist celebrity)
IbogaProject
(6,073 posts)Skittles
(172,852 posts)gotta love the ones who photograph their victory over......a duck
calimary
(90,775 posts)SeattleVet
(5,932 posts)If it's anyone else they somehow transform into a trans dem leftist.
Liberal In Texas
(16,425 posts)a church or a mall or a rightwing podcaster or ...
See it's actually the radical left. (Radical Left = Anybody against Trump)
Klarkashton
(5,417 posts)These mass murders.
I'll bet trump says nothing much about this one.
intheflow
(30,249 posts)The real violence isnt happening in blue cities, its happening in rural heartland kind of places. And it sure as hell isnt being done by immigrants, asylum seekers, POC, women, or antifa.
ImNotGod
(1,214 posts)are being groomed to be lawless, take what they want, do what they want. We are watching the breakdown of our society and no one can stop it.
Blue Full Moon
(3,650 posts)Both 40 yr old Iraq war vets.
Reminds me of the Las Vegas and New Orleans attacks.
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RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,250 posts)Tree Lady
(13,384 posts)In military so loose that feeling of valuing life.
choie
(6,991 posts)I killed a bird that had no way to defend himself. Look at that blood! Aren't guns great?
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