Can we have REAL leadership in the party?! PLEASE? Schumer about to Cave again!

[Mr.WeRP]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-trump-set-face-off-budget-battle-that-could-trigger-govt-shutdowns-2025-09-29/

According to Democratic sources who spoke on condition of anonymity, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and other lawmakers are weighing a plan that would extend government funding for seven to 10 days beyond a Tuesday midnight (0400 GMT Wednesday) deadline, buying time to hammer out a more permanent agreement. Other options are also on the table, the sources said.

The Trump admin is hell bent to punish DEMOCRATS! Trump published an Enemy of the States list today filled with our party members. YOU DON’T NEGOTIATE WITH THAT!

[J_William_Ryan]

1. Democrats put what's best for the country first.

It’s perhaps our greatest weakness.

[Irish_Dem]

4. The majority of US voters appear not to see this as a good thing.

Putting country about party.

[Paladin]

16. Handing trump yet another victory is not what's "best for the country."

I don't believe Schumer is capable of seeing that, at this point.

[ImNotGod]

26. Caving to lawless fascists is never good for the country unless its russia. nt

[Walleye]

2. No, no, NO!!!

[Raven123]

3. Maybe recheck the temperature in the room, Chuck

Assuming the source is accurate, of course

[iemanja]

5. Unacceptable

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. I won't get bent out of shape over a 7 day extention proposed for that reason

I think "cave" is too harsh a word for that under those circumstances. However something meaningful would need to come out of intense negotiations. No further delays, period. 7 days is more than time enough under any good faith scenario.

[yellow dahlia]

27. I believe the subsidies/tax credits for ACA and Medicaid expire tomorrow.

Therein lies the rub.

[lostincalifornia]

28. I don't believe that is correct. They expire on December 31, 2025 if not renewed.

[walkingman]

7. 7 days or 7 months - the narrative will be a cave. This is how today's media works.

Trump is not going to back down, we all know it. What is the point?

[iemanja]

8. The problem isn't "the narrative"

It's what they do.

[walkingman]

10. Of course it is...but once it is described as caving, and it will, then there will a rebellion

among the party and I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams anything actually changing with Trump or his GOP lackeys. So what is the point?

IMO, shut it down and keep it shut down until hell freezes over. Fight, Fight, Fight.

[iemanja]

11. Contact Schumer here

to make your views known: https://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/message-chuck

[ananda]

14. Done!

I sent him a pretty direct letter
on never caving to a bully,
standing strong.

[iemanja]

15. Excellent!

[bigtree]

18. this is specious

...republicans have control over ALL branches of government.

What exactly do you think is goinbg to happen after we vote to shut the government down?Is the position here that we shouldn't talk to the president or republicans to try and get our health care benefits extended?

What kind of politics is this when people are attacking the ones actually working to claw back the republican budget for demanding a seat at the table and to make their proposals in person alongside of the republican leaders?

How the fuck is demanding an extension on health care subsidies caving? And how the fuck does yelling at people trying to make that happen help ANYONE?

I mean, what the fuck is the motivation here? DO ANY OF THE PEOPLE CRITICIZING THIS EFFORT GET HEALTH CARE SUBSIDES UNDER THE ACA?

How do you folks railing against Chuck plan to get those extended? Or is that just not something you were thinking about or none of your concern?

[walkingman]

20. No one is "railing against Schumer". We just want him to demand changes and not back down

as he did last time. Shut it down, let the GOP deal with the problem. This is what the voters wanted and this is what they will get. Stand up to the dumbest people and biggest bullies on the planet. They are making America a laughingstock around the world - they own it.

Thoughts and prayers.....☮

[bigtree]

23. that's what the fuck he did today. demand changes

...so what the fuck is this about anyway?

We 'walk away' when the voting is done, and since there's no deal, and no extension save the suggestion by Schumer, the shutdown is still on.

Why represent this as anything else, and why expect our leaders to not come to the actual table and make their demands. After all, this is really the FIRST time republicans even let Democrats in on discussions anywhere on this budget.

What's the actual cave in what occurred today? Nothing was agreed to by anyone, and it looks like the shutdown is still on the way.

If there is an extension it will be at the behest of the Dem leaders proposal and it will be the WH and republicans caving because they;re spooked about their own cuts and their own constituents.

And what do people who don't need health subsidies care that he's working to get the extension included?

And what do people care that he's demanding changes in the way presidents can claw back money Congress approved?

I mean, what the hell are we fighting for? It's as if people yelling at him can't make their way to the things he's trying to negotiate. Do they care about the benefits?

Do they care about any of the fucking cuts? I want to know, because, it looks like all critics care about is bashing our own leaders for trying here.

[walkingman]

24. Bigtree...I don't think the majority of Dems are bashing out party. I think it is just frustration

because we basically have little or nothing we can do about any of these wacky things. I know I find it hard to believe that so many of my neighbors, my friends, my family supports these nasty bastards but it is real and I honestly think that regardless of what we do or don't do will change that...at least not until the mid-terms at the earliest. The anti-immigrant, anti-everything and everyone other than white "conservatives" is not the kind of America I want. Add in the push to bring in religion into the mix and this is where we are now.

I hope we allow the government to shut down and then let the chips fall where they may. Time to end this charade.

[bigtree]

25. agreed

[edhopper]

9. Keeping the Government open

Without allowing the GOP to pass their punishing budget, is not a cave.

[ananda]

12. This is Schumer Schumering.

It's what he does, being stuck in
the old guard ways.

[Emile]

13. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

is the definition of insanity.

[bigtree]

17. it's a fucking seven day extension

...everyone should take notice how much this screed is focused against the Dem leader and not on the health benefits that millions of us rely on to survive he's advocating for.

There's also a demand that republicans agree to limits on the president's ability to interrupt or cancel out funding approved by Congress. (I'd bet a paycheck that people hollering at the Dem leader don't know aquat about that or any of the other demands).

Schumer is fighting for those priorities, not this petty political fighting that characterizes ALL of the objection here to this reasonable, and normal in any other world, attempt to lay out DEMOCRATIC party priorities in a republican majority budget.

How is this any different from the negotiations that would follow a shutdown, which is still more than likely to occur because of republican intransigence?

What the did you expect to happen after the shutdown? For republicans to curl in a ball and fold just because government isn't doing the things they didn't want it to in the first place?

ANY political protest needs to have a legislative goal attached, or else it's just volume and agitation to no effect at all in the end.

[spanone]

19. So what happened in the meeting today?

Been watching the news and there is scant reporting on it.

[bigtree]

21. they were rebuffed, so no 'cave'

...just the Dem leader wedging and tweaking republicans on healthcare benefits and their own branch's budget priorities vs the Executive.

Thune said he was open to health care legislation similar to what Schumer wanted but not in this budget.

Whatever happened, the cave was in the republicans and the WH agreeing to a meeting they said all week wasn't going to happen signaling their own nervousness about their own budget.

[spanone]

22. Thanks!

[Keepthesoulalive]

29. You have the patience of a saint

Whatever that means , for the atheists among us.

[CatWoman]

33. Trump PANICS and CANCELS PRESS from SHUTDOWN Meeting...

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[lostincalifornia]

30. and just who are these "anonymous sources"? According to this Schumer just came out and

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there would not be an extension.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143539378

So who is lying.

[Emile]

32. Great News!

[Mr.WeRP]

35. I guess AP/Reuters was. Sourced material from them...

Is still allowed and current. Schumer probably got backlash for floating this shit so its good we show the leadership when we disagree, no?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. Fair enough,

I guess the sources were wrong, which seems to be a recurring thing now.

[mcar]

34. Except no

You might consider deleting:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143539378

Schumer says he will not support 7- or 10-day stopgap to avoid shutdown

[Mr.WeRP]

36. Except it was. Just because Schumer is weak

Means he can be pushed by the base. And I will push every chance I get. And I won’t remove my opinion because people feel I should. That’s something MAGA does.

[mcar]

38. The premise of you OP is wrong

He didn't cave.

[Mr.WeRP]

39. He was going to. Until the base sent the backlash

That’s why we are here.

[mcar]

40. Your opinion. Not fact

[Mr.WeRP]

41. Same as your original projection.