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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsjust throwing this out there, but the timing of this pentagon meeting and the government shut down.
kinda chills me to the bone.
bucolic_frolic
(53,589 posts)Department of War. Nothing to worry about.
MaeScott
(946 posts)..put nothing past this administration, they have no bottom
I think its their loyalty oath signing time, and not to the constitution
bucolic_frolic
(53,589 posts)Individually, many would oppose. Together none dare speak up.
Mossfern
(4,571 posts)Hopefully the generals will remember their oath to the Constitution.
samnsara
(18,701 posts)its just more trump fuckery
Mossfern
(4,571 posts)I'm past thinking that they're too stupid.
I think that will be our downfall - underestimating them and overestimating the intelligence of the typical American voter.
gab13by13
(30,905 posts)that everything will be OK, we are in the early stages of a dictatorship, right fucking now. We need to fight back right fucking now.
California should have gone for more than 5 House seats because it looks like not many other states are following suit.
BWdem4life
(2,908 posts)They know their power. They will secede before allowing the Federal Government to include them in its fascist takeover of the country. And Oregon and Washington will join them when they do.
The typical American voter is why we are where we are. OTOH, the typical American voter is the only way we can get out of this mess. Its clear that the republicans in Congress wont stand up, so its up to us to do it at the ballot box. The problem is getting people to wake up and realize we hold the power.
58Sunliner
(6,273 posts)Mossfern
(4,571 posts)but also cunning. After all, they've managed to get this far.
58Sunliner
(6,273 posts)It shouldn't by now, after growing up with all of these serial murderers. People underestimate them because they can't imagine the evil will to destroy.
S/V Loner
(9,479 posts)The ones behind the scenes Heritage, Federalist, Thiel, Ellison are not stupid and they are the ones running the show.
gab13by13
(30,905 posts)rubbersole
(10,947 posts)Oh, wait...
FakeNoose
(39,779 posts)Then how come everything they do backfires?
If youre smart it doesnt happen in the first place.
HAB911
(10,186 posts)it could sow the seeds of a military coup. we shall see.
EYESORE 9001
(29,377 posts)Perhaps Im being naive in this rash decision.
gab13by13
(30,905 posts)HAB911
(10,186 posts)could you ever imagine in your wildest, we would be here today?
gab13by13
(30,905 posts)He wants the top brass to understand that anyone who does not follow an order will be removed, without pension.
multigraincracker
(36,802 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,883 posts)CentralMass
(16,813 posts)IronLionZion
(50,600 posts)taking those leaders away from their posts around the world and putting them in one place.
Maybe some sort of loyalty oath or your fired situation. So if anyone feels uncomfortable with illegal orders, they may have to retire early.
Or they'll fire anyone who looks too DEI and put in unqualified loyal MAGAts.
3catwoman3
(28,382 posts)...designated survivor scenario with no one in the current line of succession hidden away in a safe room. A "no designated survivor" scenario actually.
sop
(17,137 posts)'Hegseth hit with 'rare intervention' as Pentagon generals grow tired of his act: NYT'
"Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is facing growing opposition from Pentagon generals, including from the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, as questions about his leadership grow...The report notes that the latest clash with the generals is part of a growing problem as questions grow about the embattled secretary's performance."
" 'Mr. Hegseths actions could shape the militarys top ranks for years to come. His insistence on absolute loyalty, backed with repeated threats of polygraphs, also creates uncertainty and mistrust that threaten to undermine the readiness and effectiveness of the force,' Pentagon insiders told the Times."
"With the report noting that firings and resignations have left Hegseth with a 'skeleton staff of civilian aides to run his office,' the report adds, 'The infighting, investigations and personnel churn have strained Mr. Hegseths ability to manage critical operations in the Pentagon.' "
"The Times is reporting that Pentagon officials have grown weary of Hegseth's continual photo-ops, noting, 'including one that he posted from Omaha Beach in Normandy in which he joins Army Rangers carrying a soldier on a stretcher as part of D-Day remembrances are distractions that serve primarily to bolster his image.' "
https://www.rawstory.com/hegseth-pentagon-revolt/
Link to NYT article (behind paywall):
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/us/politics/hegseth-pentagon-leadership.html
TommyT139
(2,118 posts)...they might not be in any position to complain, soon enough.
NJCher
(42,186 posts)Eom
OldBaldy1701E
(9,791 posts)We had the chance to stop this when things became crazy, but we decided that those who were corrupting and destroying the means to remove them should be removed by the means they were corrupting and destroying.
Makes sense.
Farmer-Rick
(12,351 posts)I think it's to tell the military they will have to work for free during the budget shutdown. They did a grand meeting when I was in the Navy over when/how/if we were going to get paid during the budget shutdown.
The Admirals all told us we had to work even if we didn't get paid. I think many a sailor had other ideas. But the shut down was short lived and we got paid.
chowder66
(11,675 posts)spanone
(140,843 posts)He's so fucking insane.