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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,131 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:18 AM Sep 2025

Hegseth: "every warrior across our joint force is required to do PT [physical training] every duty day"

US military to adopt highest male standards for combat https://share.google/TfUZTYVy8kJNL3Cn7

“I’m also directing that warfighters in combat jobs execute their service fitness test at a gender-neutral age norm, male standard scored above 70 percent,” Hegseth added. 

Apart from raising the physical standards, his speech also touched on having promotions within the military being “merit-based,” with “lethality” considered above all.

The Defense secretary also announced that every service member, regardless of rank, will be required to take the physical assessment twice a year, along with meeting weight and height requirements during every year of service.

“Today, at my direction, every warrior across our joint force is required to do PT [physical training] every duty day. Should be common sense. Most units do that already, but we’re codified, and we’re not talking like hot yoga and stretching. Real hard. PT, either as a unit or as an individual, at every level, from the Joint Chiefs to everyone in this room to the youngest private. Leaders set the standard,” Hegseth said.

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Hegseth: "every warrior across our joint force is required to do PT [physical training] every duty day" (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2025 OP
WHAT?!?!? NCDem47 Sep 2025 #1
Define "lethality" haele Sep 2025 #10
The way he describes things, the phrase War Crimes comes to mind Hekate Sep 2025 #24
In the syndicate, they refer to it as "making bones." John1956PA Sep 2025 #34
Saw a few clips of Hegseth-the-Crusader saying "fat" generals are no longer acceptable. I bet they are all ticked for Silent Type Sep 2025 #2
All levels. Didn't someone claim to be in the military as CIC? karynnj Sep 2025 #41
"No more fat troops!..." regnaD kciN Oct 2025 #55
Does golf count? newdeal2 Sep 2025 #3
PT every day qazplm135 Sep 2025 #4
Will traitor in chief lead by example! SheltieLover Sep 2025 #5
I'd like to see him drop down and give us twenty Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2025 #17
I'd like to see him drop down and give us one... 3catwoman3 Sep 2025 #30
He couldn't even manage the "drop down" part, unless it was only his pants. niyad Sep 2025 #42
Eewwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3catwoman3 Sep 2025 #49
Remember, folks, that's a guy who. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2025 #32
Me too, Yo! SheltieLover Sep 2025 #45
YOU'RE ALL TOO FAT usonian Sep 2025 #6
Do they think that this is going to attract new troops to sign up? Bev54 Sep 2025 #7
PT every day? haele Sep 2025 #8
NEXT: SOW Hegseth requires a daily report from every general to explain why they shouldn't be fired. dalton99a Sep 2025 #9
Aesthetics is a Nazi thingy Champp Sep 2025 #11
Yep. They'd rather have good looking troops than intelligent, competent troops. tanyev Sep 2025 #12
Strategy is out, lethality is in Renew Deal Sep 2025 #13
Whenever I see his "do" I am reminded of the George Clooney character in "Oh Brother where art thou" question everything Sep 2025 #14
Dapper Dan or Fop? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2025 #50
I think Dapper Dan. Is this, was this, a real product? question everything Oct 2025 #58
MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #15
"...no more overbearing rules of engagement." Ilsa Sep 2025 #19
Fuck the Geneva Conventions, right? Ocelot II Sep 2025 #38
He's obviously never done hot yoga GenThePerservering Sep 2025 #16
Whiskey Pete doing hot yoga? The back-alley stench of dumpster bourbon Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #18
I expect that if physical standards are indeed raised, as long as they're not Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #20
Going by sheer numbers, I would say that would be true Kaleva Sep 2025 #31
He doesn't want any women in the military. niyad Sep 2025 #44
Steroids for breakfast lame54 Sep 2025 #21
Does that include throwing axes at drummers? Coventina Sep 2025 #22
The only thing Hegseth and I agree on is that everyone in the military should meet a PT standard Buckeyeblue Sep 2025 #23
I agree Kaleva Sep 2025 #29
I hope Rebl2 Sep 2025 #25
Generals are not in field combat any longer. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #26
Probably need the stamina to put in very long hours and still think clearly Kaleva Sep 2025 #27
For their hands so they can hold the sharpies longer... ananda Sep 2025 #35
Well, I don't doubt that Kegbreath has done thousands of 8-ounce curls over the years . . . hatrack Sep 2025 #28
Maybe he needs it to handle a skateboard... ananda Sep 2025 #36
Or an axe . . . hatrack Sep 2025 #39
Hand curled around an 8 oz beer glass? niyad Sep 2025 #47
The very same - 12 oz and 16 oz options also available . . . hatrack Sep 2025 #48
OK, Pistol Pete Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #33
Why is Hegseth so focused on soldiers looking buff and handsome? Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #37
POS drunkard is pushing for a way to kick women out of the military. valleyrogue Sep 2025 #40
He's also trying to push out African-American men. GoCubsGo Oct 2025 #54
Will he be watching? Sounds kind of kinky. Ping Tung Sep 2025 #43
Sounds like a great use of taxpayer money! We'll be unbeatable at the next early 20th century style land war! meadowlander Sep 2025 #46
North Vietnam beat our big, strong, masculine military mainer Oct 2025 #51
Actually they didn't Kaleva Oct 2025 #52
You're saying we were victorious in Vietnam? mainer Oct 2025 #56
Who asked for this bullshit? Iris Oct 2025 #53
Paul Krugman's very fine comments on this: mainer Oct 2025 #57

haele

(15,376 posts)
10. Define "lethality"
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:47 AM
Sep 2025

Lethal meaning you can kill someone? Or you have killed another person?
As to the first, even disabled, I can kill someone.
With most projectile weapons, with my walking stick, with my knowledge of physics, by setting a trap, by poisoning someone...I may not have strength, but have a brain, and I can use it.
As for the second, I doubt Kegsbreath meets that definition, unless he haunts dark country roads looking for impaired transients to beat up or lynch and has managed to kill a few along the way.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
2. Saw a few clips of Hegseth-the-Crusader saying "fat" generals are no longer acceptable. I bet they are all ticked for
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 2025

being called from across the world to listen to such BS.

The CNN pundits were having a hard time not laughing.

karynnj

(60,949 posts)
41. All levels. Didn't someone claim to be in the military as CIC?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:46 PM
Sep 2025

Not sure he meets weight requirement and can't imagine him doing "PT".

regnaD kciN

(27,631 posts)
55. "No more fat troops!..."
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:21 AM
Oct 2025

“…And fat commanders are a disgrace to the military! Now, let me introduce the commander-in-chief.”

newdeal2

(5,371 posts)
3. Does golf count?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:24 AM
Sep 2025

Just asking for a certain CIC who plays everyday and wins every senior tournament trophy.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
4. PT every day
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:25 AM
Sep 2025

Is silly. Are they going to PT during training exercises? Even infantry units I served in didn't PT every single day.

3catwoman3

(29,346 posts)
30. I'd like to see him drop down and give us one...
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:05 PM
Sep 2025

… or even be able to get up off the floor unassisted.

DinahMoeHum

(23,592 posts)
32. Remember, folks, that's a guy who. . .
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:05 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:30 PM - Edit history (1)

. . .DRIVES. HIS. GOLF. CART. ON. THE. GREEN.

Bev54

(13,427 posts)
7. Do they think that this is going to attract new troops to sign up?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:32 AM
Sep 2025

I can see a lot of retirements coming up with less people signing up, is he going to bring back the draft as well?

haele

(15,376 posts)
8. PT every day?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:37 AM
Sep 2025

Okay, kids, time for the 10 minute wake up!
We start out with 30 second toe-touch stretch, then two minutes of jumping jacks, then two minutes of push-ups or mountain climbers, then a jog in place for 5 minutes- ready, set, go...

There now, don't you all feel better. Okay - now for the plan of the day...

dalton99a

(94,087 posts)
9. NEXT: SOW Hegseth requires a daily report from every general to explain why they shouldn't be fired.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:40 AM
Sep 2025

question everything

(52,099 posts)
14. Whenever I see his "do" I am reminded of the George Clooney character in "Oh Brother where art thou"
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:29 PM
Sep 2025

in search of the goo for his hair.

question everything

(52,099 posts)
58. I think Dapper Dan. Is this, was this, a real product?
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 11:34 AM
Oct 2025

Competition in O’Brother, Where Art Thou?

George Clooney’s character is obsessed with Dapper Dan Pomade, a fictional hair styling product that creates his sleek, shiny, combed-back hair. Clooney makes a scene when the shop clerk sells him FOP Pomade, because from his perspective only Dapper Dan will do.

https://grfxfilm.substack.com/p/unraveling-dapper-dan-the-iconic

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,476 posts)
15. MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:09 PM
Sep 2025

Did the secretary bring generals and admirals in from around the world so he could treat them like a CPAC audience? Actually, yes, he did.

Why Pete Hegseth’s pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected

flip.it/GIAS0g

(@gypsydaveh.bsky.social) 2025-09-30T16:25:32.516Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pete-hegseth-speech-generals-admirals-rcna234674

But having heard the secretary’s remarks, he proved to be even worse than expected. Reuters reported:

U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth slammed ‘fat generals’ and diversity initiatives that he said led to decades of decay in the military and told a rare gathering of commanders on Tuesday they should resign if they don’t support his agenda. ‘Foolish and reckless political leaders set the wrong compass heading and we lost our way. We became the “Woke Department,”’ Hegseth said as he kicked off the event in Quantico, Virginia. ‘But not anymore,’ he said.


Choosing the worst moment from Hegseth’s bizarre and unnecessary speech is admittedly challenging. Was it his boasts about firing qualified military leaders? Or maybe his condemnation of diversity initiatives and climate change as “s---” that the military will no longer care about?.....

Maybe the lowest of the low points was Hegseth’s comment that seemed to open the door to a new attitude toward war crimes. “We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country,” he declared. “No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.”

Hegseth: "We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-30T13:06:31.204Z


In other words, Hegseth spent millions of taxpayer dollars to bring generals and admirals in from around the world so that he could treat them like a CPAC audience.

As for those in attendance who might’ve been uncomfortable with the secretary’s absurdities, he extended some advice to them, too. “If the words I’m speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign,” Hegseth said.

Ilsa

(64,331 posts)
19. "...no more overbearing rules of engagement."
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:44 PM
Sep 2025

So, more like Russian soldiers at Bucha, Ukraine? Torture and rape are okay now?

Fuck this shit.

GenThePerservering

(3,329 posts)
16. He's obviously never done hot yoga
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:31 PM
Sep 2025

I doubt seriously that he would be able to make it through a single session.

Maru Kitteh

(31,743 posts)
18. Whiskey Pete doing hot yoga? The back-alley stench of dumpster bourbon
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:39 PM
Sep 2025

filling the yurt with acrid fumes and sticky tobacco-colored residue . . .

Yeah, pass.


Wiz Imp

(9,940 posts)
20. I expect that if physical standards are indeed raised, as long as they're not
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 04:36 PM
Sep 2025

outright discriminatory, far more men will fail to meet new standards than women.

Buckeyeblue

(6,349 posts)
23. The only thing Hegseth and I agree on is that everyone in the military should meet a PT standard
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 04:46 PM
Sep 2025

But if he makes it too stringent he'll a lot of men will fail it. Not everyone in the military are athletes. But asking everyone to be physically fit is not controversial in my opinion.

Kaleva

(40,345 posts)
27. Probably need the stamina to put in very long hours and still think clearly
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 04:57 PM
Sep 2025

That’s my guess.

Also, physical exercise is a good way to reduce stress.

ananda

(35,080 posts)
35. For their hands so they can hold the sharpies longer...
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:21 PM
Sep 2025

when drawing battle plans on the whiteboard.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,344 posts)
33. OK, Pistol Pete
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:15 PM
Sep 2025

Let's see you drop and give us 20. ON LIVE TV. SEVERAL TIMES A DAY!

What's that? You can't? RESIGN! That won't be tolerated!

valleyrogue

(2,699 posts)
40. POS drunkard is pushing for a way to kick women out of the military.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:36 PM
Sep 2025

They are just things for screwing, reproducing, and doing shitwork around the house men are too lazy to do.

GoCubsGo

(34,890 posts)
54. He's also trying to push out African-American men.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:08 AM
Oct 2025

Hence, his bullshit about the beards. The military relaxed the rules on beards for them, because they're prone issues with ingrown hairs when they shave. Anyone who has ever watched Dr. Pimple Popper knows what kind of problems that can cause. That little booze-addled sadist wants them to suffer, should they refuse to quit over this shit.

meadowlander

(5,128 posts)
46. Sounds like a great use of taxpayer money! We'll be unbeatable at the next early 20th century style land war!
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 08:07 PM
Sep 2025

Just bear in mind that while Pistol Pete is pissing around trying to figure out how to kick women and trans people out of the military, China is modernizing its nuclear arsenal and ICBM capabilities, enhancing their surveillance capability, kitting out the largest navy in the world, and eyeing up Taiwan.

mainer

(12,549 posts)
51. North Vietnam beat our big, strong, masculine military
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 06:45 AM
Oct 2025

And they did it with an army of far smaller men and women, many of them barefoot, whose only advantage was sheer determination.

As Eisenhower said, “it’s not the size of the dog in the fight. It’s the size of the fight in the dog.”

Kaleva

(40,345 posts)
52. Actually they didn't
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 07:40 AM
Oct 2025

The Tet Offensive was a major defeat for them but a huge political victory.

mainer

(12,549 posts)
56. You're saying we were victorious in Vietnam?
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:07 AM
Oct 2025

We have different views of victory.
Our generals kept insisting "we've won every battle."
But a battle is not a war.

mainer

(12,549 posts)
57. Paul Krugman's very fine comments on this:
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:12 AM
Oct 2025

"War still requires extraordinary courage from the men and women engaged in combat — courage that, according to officers I’ve spoken with, is rooted in a sense of honor, not swaggering machismo. Combatants also have to be physically fit enough to endure incredible hardship.

But they don’t have to look like bodybuilders — and anyway, only a small fraction of a modern army engages directly in combat. These days, war is conducted largely with machines and ranged weapons, and most of an army’s personnel are employed, one way or another, keeping those machines and weapons in action and providing the intelligence that makes them effective. These noncombatants are every bit as essential to victory as front-line troops.

Actually, this has been true for a long time, at least since World War II. I very much doubt that Hegseth would consider the team led by Alan Turing, which broke Germany’s Enigma code, or the group led by Joseph Rochefort, which broke Japan’s naval code, warriors — even leaving aside the fact that Turing was gay. Yet they contributed as much to victory as any front-line soldier.

And the “warrior ethos” Hegseth touts is even less sufficient, on its own, to win wars today."

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