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Trust_Reality

(2,280 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM Sep 2025

Regarding the Mormon hating shooter

Reported by The Guardian (9/30/2025):

"The suspected shooter in the killing of at least four people in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Michigan on Sunday bore a virulent hatred of the Mormon religion which he frequently referred to as the antichrist, local people have reported."

This tell me he was a Christian fundamentalist who decided to act out. Christian fundamentalists are, for example, all-in Southern Baptists, Missouri Synod Lutherans, and various other Evangelicals. How do I "know" who they are? I was one (Southern Baptist) in my early life. I escaped around age 30.

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Regarding the Mormon hating shooter (Original Post) Trust_Reality Sep 2025 OP
Congratulations on your escape! tblue37 Sep 2025 #1
I think the failed relationship with the Mormon woman was central to the hatred. WarGamer Sep 2025 #2
This. intrepidity Sep 2025 #3
You forgot to mention he was MAGAt. Kingofalldems Sep 2025 #5
We were discussing motive... WarGamer Sep 2025 #8
Correct. He probably was MAGA but his motive was clearly something else. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #9
My guess is that he was rejected by the friends and family of the woman... WarGamer Sep 2025 #11
So MAGAt is the most important. Kingofalldems Sep 2025 #12
Actually, that's probably irrelevant to his motive. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #15
Like many Mormons Kaleva Sep 2025 #16
that sounds about right. stopdiggin Sep 2025 #6
According to reports, he once had a relationship with a Mormon woman in Utah Ocelot II Sep 2025 #4
This "lefty radical" wants to ask usonian Sep 2025 #7
Wisconsin Synod Lutherans too Bettie Sep 2025 #10
Remember crazy MN Rep. Michele Bachman? She was WELS. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #13
Yep... Bettie Sep 2025 #14

WarGamer

(18,338 posts)
2. I think the failed relationship with the Mormon woman was central to the hatred.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:59 AM
Sep 2025

He obviously wasn't so anti-Mormon when he was involved with her... obviously she rejected him and he went South.

Ocelot II

(129,746 posts)
9. Correct. He probably was MAGA but his motive was clearly something else.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:37 AM
Sep 2025

It's not enough to say the guy killed a bunch of people and burned down a church just because he was MAGA (as awful and benighted as they are, most of them are not doing that). This person had an axe to grind regarding Mormons in particular (who themselves tend to be hard-core conservatives who voted for Trump by 64%).

WarGamer

(18,338 posts)
11. My guess is that he was rejected by the friends and family of the woman...
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:39 AM
Sep 2025

He believed he had a chance with her but was thwarted by "all her churchy friends and family".

The meth addiction I suppose isn't a good thing either...

Ocelot II

(129,746 posts)
15. Actually, that's probably irrelevant to his motive.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:49 AM
Sep 2025

His Mormon girlfriend dumped him and ever since then he's hated Mormons.

stopdiggin

(15,178 posts)
6. that sounds about right.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:10 AM
Sep 2025

More women are taking a look at these guys ...
Coming up with a big NOPE !
(still depressing how many are still saying .. "great daddy material here!" "definitely a soulmate!" - )

Honey - this guy isn't safe to borrow your car (for a run to Walmart and Chick-fi-A), or watching your cat ...
Get a restraining order - then get a life.

Ocelot II

(129,746 posts)
4. According to reports, he once had a relationship with a Mormon woman in Utah
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:03 AM
Sep 2025

that ended badly. This is the more likely origin of his hatred of Mormons.

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