My question is now that we know without a doubt there will be no elections or at least not

[Eliot Rosewater]

Elections that it will be safe to vote in or that your vote will be counted or the machines will be safe, what do we do now?

Our chances to prevent this are in the past now, we had them starting over eight years ago but we didn’t.

America, RIP.

No I don’t mean not to fight, I’m at every protest, I send donations, I’m just hoping people will come up with something in the reality of the democracy being gone.

[Silent Type]

1. We'll have an election, whether we show up is another question.

[usedtobedemgurl]

2. What happened?

[stopdiggin]

12. this is just the way this poster deals with things

just continue to 'do you' - and listen to voices (and sources) that make sense to you.
The rabbit holes are neither productive nor, in many cases, either accurate or predictive.

[TheProle]

15. Yes, a perusal of the OP's journal

is a wild ride through apocalyptic predictions and sky-is-falling hyperbole.

I appreciate the array of voices in the big tent, but there are some dark corners.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Ben Ginsberg argues the more impediments you put in to make people not vote the more determined they become to vote.

Of course the impediments can overwhelm them, but we aren't there yet.

[EdmondDantes_]

30. Getting arrested, beaten, even killed, didn't stop the Civil Rights movement

Being told no for years didn't deter the women's suffrage movement.

Giving up is easy, cynicism is easy. But when you are willing to have hope, to do the hard work, you can it done. Republicans didn't just give up when Democrats held Congressional majorities for most of the 20th century. They aren't giving up even though we won in interracial and same sex marriage, on civil and gay rights, abortion, etc. We have to keep working to preserve those things.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Recommended. Brazil replaced Bolsinaro. Chile replaced Pinochet.

We can replace Trump.

[usedtobedemgurl]

16. I have been grieving the death of my husband for the last 48 hours.

I was not sure if I missed something big. Thank you for clarifying.

[TheProle]

20. I'm very sorry for your loss and wish you healing and peace.

[usedtobedemgurl]

40. Thank you.

I feel lost without him.

[Bettie]

32. I'm so sorry.

I can't imagine how terrible this is for you.

[usedtobedemgurl]

41. It is. Everything is upside down,

Including my sleep schedule.

[FemDemERA]

33. I'm so sorry.

There is nothing I can say to ease the pain you are feeling, but I am sorry for your loss. I hope you are surrounded by loving friends and family to help you during this time. Take care of yourself.

[usedtobedemgurl]

42. I am surrounded by mpre people than i ever could

Habe imagined. Thank you.

[MustLoveBeagles]

43. I'm sorry for your loss

Please take care of yourself.

[electric_blue68]

44. Oh, dear! Condolences. I hope you have supportive people in your life.

[Jeebo]

3. We don't "know" any such thing.

What I worry about is if we're going to have free and fair elections. Maybe I'm naive, but my instincts tell me that Americans would not put up with not having elections. I am sure we'll have elections, but I am not sure how fair they will be.

— Ron

[somaticexperiencing]

4. I don't make assumptions like that.

[stopdiggin]

13. but you would make 'assumptions' to the contrary? And why? -(nt)-

[somaticexperiencing]

17. I apparently posted this in the wrong place. Meant this as a response to OP post.

[stopdiggin]

19. Gottcha'. Changes the message (and certainly intent) somewhat. (but, we've all done it. no harm - no foul.) -(nt)-

[Blues Heron]

5. What would they do if they were canceled? They're putting up with a lot of shit now and... crickets mostly

[Torchlight]

6. I guess we all read tea leaves different

I think we're pretty bruised collectively, but not knocked down and certainly not knocked out.

[RubyRose]

7. We'll have elections but count on fewer mail in

options, more voter id and a purge of voter rolls to get rid of potential non citizens.

[PSPS]

10. "get rid of potential non citizens" should be "get rid of democratic voters"

There's virtually no instance of non-citizens voting. The purging and suppression is aimed directly at the democratic voters.

[RubyRose]

11. They'll use that Des Moines school superintendent that was registered to vote in Maryland

As proof there are voting illegals.

[PSPS]

14. We don't know if he ever voted but, even if he did, that's one "illegal" vote.

Certainly not evidence of "illegals" voting in any significant numbers. That has never been shown to be true.

[Ponietz]

27. One "Willie Horton" was enough for them in 1988

Facts don’t matter to them.

[Shrek]

8. I can't find any news reports about cancelled elections

Can you provide a link, please?

[Irish_Dem]

9. Putin holds rigged elections.

[edhopper]

18. What is your evidence

for this "stated fact"?

[Ping Tung]

22. Thanks for the info

[Patton French]

23. This is counterproductive.

We need every single vote and things like this discourage people from voting.

[LostOne4Ever]

24. All we have to fear is fear itself

This quote defeated Fascism 80 years ago and will defeat fascism again!

[dwayneb]

25. We cannot afford to dissuade ANYONE from voting in the upcoming elections

Will is be harder to vote? Yes. Will it take more effort for senior citizens and disabled people and poor people to vote? Absolutely.

But at this point our election system is still in place and at least in my rural Red county it will continue to function as always. I just requested my mail in ballot and fully anticipate voting absentee.

Because of the way our government is structured, we have to work harder as a majority to get our representation. That is simply one of the weaknesses of American government. It hands power to a minority via the Senate and through gerrymandering, and the Electoral College.

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. I am not doing that, I am sure though that son could take it that way so yes

I agree with you and I don’t want anyone to not vote even though voting will be very different from now on.

[BannonsLiver]

26. Well that's a shame, I just changed my address with the election board.

I think I’ll go ahead and show up anyway on Election Day just to be sure.

[ImNotGod]

28. i've already answered this question many times on du

we need mass demonstrations inside and around the gated communities and individual forted homes, corporate offices, businesses of the rich elite. their money is the power behind our fascist state. it will be up to the military to either murder their own friends and relatives or join US. demonstrating in small numbers outside fascist agencies ain't going to do shit. Disrupting roads and transportation to destroy their freedom and economy, the rich elite are the soft underbelly of every fascist state.

[themaguffin]

29. I'm not dooming - which is WHAT THEY WANT. There will elections & we need to vote big.

[gab13by13]

34. The scariest thing for me

are people who constantly underestimate what we are up against.

I heard a man on TV who wrote a book about authoritarianism and he said 2 things that stuck with me.

1. Do not listen to people who say everything is OK, everything will be fine.
2. Do not listen to people who have just recently come to the conclusion that everything is not just fine.

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. And I am so tired of certain people taking my words out of context

By only quoting the part about no elections and not the rest of it where I said or they will do blah blah blah which is more likely of course.

You would think they would focus on the problem and not me but oh well.

This happens all the time.

Of course I’m not talking about you and I know you know that but just in case.

[leftstreet]

37. Then why not just say that?

You were making great points in your OP that could invite conversation

or at least not ...elections that it will be safe to vote in or that your vote will be counted or the machines will be safe, what do we do now?

Why bother discussing your excellent questions if there will no longer be elections?

[EdmondDantes_]

39. Those aren't good points either since they are unsupported by evidence

People have been swearing that Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, and now Trump again means we won't have fair elections again. And those people have been wrong every time.

There's nothing supporting the claims this time either. If we aren't going to have fair elections, why do we keep winning special elections, and why didn't Republicans do better in downstream races in 2024? If it won't be safe to vote, why are Republicans bothering to try to make it harder to vote? If they had some secret plan to hack the vote or to send thugs to Democratic areas, why would they bother with the other stuff?

[Eliot Rosewater]

38. Ps

And I never respond to people who I believe are here for a very different reason than I am, that’s probably why I keep getting followed around, it’s kind of annoying but oh well.