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ancianita

(43,334 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 04:01 PM Oct 2025

More on Stupid, Cowardly Corporate Media

Take this astounding example from a recent New York Times piece about Trump’s use of military force against boats in the Caribbean.

Some legal experts have called it a crime to summarily kill civilians not directly taking part in hostilities, even if they are believed to be smuggling drugs.


“Some legal experts?” Are you kidding me? Summarily executing civilians is a war crime under international law. This isn’t a matter of debate among competing schools of legal thought. There isn’t another camp of legal experts arguing that, actually, murdering civilians is totally fine. The Times is creating false balance where none exists, making it sound like there’s some reasonable disagreement about whether mass murder constitutes a crime.

Or consider this gem from CNN, fact-checking Trump’s claim that he reduced prescription drug prices by 1500%:

Trump has unveiled a number of moves aimed at cutting drug prices in recent months, but he has yet to move the needle on reducing costs – much less slashing them by 1,500%, which is mathematically impossible, experts say.


Experts say? You need experts to tell you that 1500% is more than 100%? This is elementary school math. A 100% reduction means something is free. A 1500% reduction would mean pharmaceutical companies are paying you a decent sum of money to take their pills. You don’t need to consult the National Academy of Sciences to determine this is bullshit—you need to remember fourth grade.

This kind of reporting is journalistic malpractice disguised as objectivity. When reporters feel compelled to add “experts say” to basic mathematical facts or treat war crimes as matters of legitimate debate, they’re not being neutral—they’re actively misleading their audience into believing basic facts are up for debate among “experts.”

The pattern is clear: mainstream media has become so terrified of appearing biased that they’ve abandoned their basic responsibility to clearly communicate truth to the public. They’d rather hide behind the false comfort of “some say” and “experts disagree” than plainly state obvious facts.

This isn’t objectivity—it’s cowardice. And it’s precisely why trust in media continues to crater.

There’s an old joke in the journalism field (with disputes over where it originated from) but the line is “if one person says it’s raining and another says it’s not, the journalist should look outside and report the truth” rather than suggesting whether or not it’s raining is a matter of dispute.

We’re seeing the opposite from the mainstream media these days.

... we get reporters who bury the most important quotes of their own interviews and editors who think basic arithmetic requires expert verification. Is it any wonder people are losing faith in institutions that seem incapable of simply stating reality on its own terms?

The media keeps wondering why trust in journalism is at historic lows. Here’s a thought:
maybe it’s because when the President reveals he’s making military decisions based on old Fox News footage and lies from his advisors, the reporter who got that admission decides it’s not worth mentioning.

Or maybe it’s because the likes of CNN and the NY Times are so worried about angry people attacking them for calling bullshit on the President that they have to cower behind “experts say” on basic objective facts.

That’s not journalism. That’s stenography. And the American people can tell the difference, even when their media apparently cannot.



https://www.techdirt.com/2025/09/30/the-mainstream-media-is-catastrophically-failing-to-meet-the-moment/

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Brenda

(2,087 posts)
2. They are all handing the reins over to AI
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 04:15 PM
Oct 2025

Either the news outlets themselves or their writers.

World of Chaos Without End.

paleotn

(22,657 posts)
9. How could you tell?
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 05:58 PM
Oct 2025

What passes for journalism was just as bad before AI. Really since at least the 80's.

Brenda

(2,087 posts)
10. Pretty sure in the 1980's journalists were humans.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 06:05 PM
Oct 2025

They may have been poor writers or biased, but they didn't all sound the same.

paleotn

(22,657 posts)
13. In 2015 they all sounded the same. There was no AI then. That's my point. How the hell can we tell?
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 06:28 PM
Oct 2025

Brenda

(2,087 posts)
14. Oh, is that your point? They all sound the same?
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 06:35 PM
Oct 2025

Then, hell to the yeah I agree.

We all know the filthy rich want to control everything. But is it a foregone conclusion that all AI journalism is being controlled by the filthy rich?

flamingdem

(40,976 posts)
3. Yesterday CNBC allowed a headline that stated dems want to give healthcare to illegals
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 04:17 PM
Oct 2025

as one side of the "argument". Sick of it.

Almost wrote to them but it's to no avail.

flamingdem

(40,976 posts)
15. Glad you're doing that
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 07:58 PM
Oct 2025

I need to get a second wind.

Sometimes I write to the show hosts. At least they know better.

They must not pay much for articles.

Scubamatt

(315 posts)
6. For far too long . . . .
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 04:28 PM
Oct 2025

we have counted on the media to save our Republic by actually reporting on the insanity, corruption and authoritarianism that is Trump. We have to accept that they are complicit in this coup - they've loved him since he came down that escalator because he gets them clicks and gives tax breaks to their corporate owners. Now, they fear him as well. We will get no help from the media, which is why I harp on our leadership needing to be louder and smarter about how we message. If/when we take back the reigns of power we need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and challenge the consolidation of media as an antitrust violation.

erronis

(24,487 posts)
7. They are all part of the same cabal. And as George Carlin would say "We aren't in it."
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 05:32 PM
Oct 2025

We keep expecting the M$M to somehow have a bone of objectivity between the cub reporter and the schmoozy owner. No, all beaten down in the name of profits.

The "experts say" meme is just a rephrasing of the addlepated orange ignoramus's "Many say..."

SouthBayDem

(33,347 posts)
16. Nearly half the population reads at an elementary school level
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 10:42 PM
Oct 2025
https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

And a 2023 study found, “The U.S. was below the OECD average in both literacy and numeracy.”

So of course even more bougie media like the NY Times will resort to tortured, lowest common denominator level of “experts say the obvious”.
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