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Ocelot II

(131,233 posts)
1. Rank and file military personnel will not be paid, not sure about ICE goons, but
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:43 PM
Oct 2025

I assume they will be.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,048 posts)
5. In theory, it takes a special statutory authorization to pay someone during shutdown
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:46 PM
Oct 2025

Members of Congress are exempt by statute. If trump tries to pay these ICE goons, there will be litigation

Wiz Imp

(10,416 posts)
7. ICE will not get paid, but they will be required to continue working
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 03:46 PM
Oct 2025

From Nancy Pelosi's website:
https://pelosi.house.gov/issues/government-shutdown#:~:text=Both%20military%20personnel%20and%20federal,after%20the%20shutdown%20is%20over.

What is the impact on U.S. military personnel and federal law enforcement?

All active-duty and Guard and Reservists on active-duty orders are excepted and therefore are required to work. On-base non-acute health care may cease, but off-base care provided through Tricare is not affected. On-base child care is open on a case-by-case basis. Federal law enforcement was also required to work. Both military personnel and federal law enforcement will not be paid until after the shutdown is over.


https://wlos.com/news/nation-world/does-ice-continue-working-during-government-shutdown-customs-border-protection-kristi-noem-dhs-pay-officers-social-media-rumors
Does ICE continue working during a government shutdown?
WASHINGTON (TNND) — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is making it clear: there are no changes to immigration enforcement or border policies under a government shutdown.

The agency took to X on Wednesday morning to dispel rumors after people on social media were speculating about what federal government services would be suspended.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said DHS officers will work through the "Democrats' shutdown" and that more than 200,000 of these officers will go without pay.

While the officers will go without pay now, the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019 requires all essential or furloughed employees under the shutdown to be paid retroactively once it ends.



LetMyPeopleVote

(182,048 posts)
8. ICE, Border Patrol Continue Work Under Shutdown
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:55 PM
Oct 2025

This is surprising to me.

ICE, Border Patrol Continue Work Under Shutdown
www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ice-border...

Aleianjack (@aleianjack.bsky.social) 2025-10-02T02:47:13.110Z

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ice-border-patrol-continue-work-under

The federal “shutdown,” instituted at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday morning has left the national security state largely immune from furloughs and work stoppages.

Though many government websites and social media feeds have gone dark — some even blaring that the Democrats are to blame — in the dark world of rounding up immigrants, terrorizing cities, and building up a new surveillance and arrest system to pursue “domestic terrorists,” little is changing.

“It doesn’t really affect us very much,” one senior Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official told me this morning.

In fact, the authoritative 77-page DHS document detailing procedures for a government shutdown shows that out of 271, 927 civil service employees onboard within the department, 259,482 (or 91 percent) are “exempt” or “excepted.”

For ICE, 63,243 of its 67,762 employees are completely exempt. For Customs and Border Protection, 63,243 of its 67,729 employees will continue to work. And for TSA, 61,197 of its 64,130 continue their annoyances unaffected......

The Pentagon and the intelligence agencies have similar exemptions and will continue their work, furloughing mostly low-level civilian employees, according to the (very) limited information they have released. For other federal entities that deal with feeding, housing, and caring for the public, the shutdown could be devastating if it goes on. It already is.

In contrast, and as always, the national security state gets what it wants.

I will keep my eye for verification of this material

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