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Mossfern

(4,731 posts)
5. It's not Trump or Netanyahu claiming that
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:06 PM
Oct 2025
Oct 3 (Reuters) - Hamas said on Friday it had agreed to release all Israeli hostages, alive or dead, under the terms of U.S. President Donald Trump's Gaza proposal, and signalled readiness to immediately enter mediated negotiations to discuss the details.

walkingman

(10,982 posts)
10. The continuing negotiations is what I mean. I am glad to see the hostages released
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:32 PM
Oct 2025

it is long overdue but I don't see Netanyahu negotiation in good faith and I don't think Trump will do anything other than talk.

Even if there is a treaty of some sort, has the US ever kept their word for any treaty in our history? And I don't see Israel agreeing to a 2-state solution.

Watch what someone does, not what they say......

lostincalifornia

(5,431 posts)
2. This whole tragedy could have been avoided if Hamas never ordered October 7, and
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:02 PM
Oct 2025

Even after October 7th, if they released the hostages and laid down their arms, much of the death and destruction could have been avoided.

What did they accomplish with October 7?

60000 Palestinian’s are dead, at least 1200+ Israelis are dead, they contributed to trump’s win, and the fate of a two-state solution is very uncertain.

Was it worth all those lives Hamas?

usonian

(25,885 posts)
3. I can hear Netanyahu now.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:03 PM
Oct 2025
That was my goal.
But I changed my mind.


See if he stops demolition
"Trump Gaza" ®️ ™️©️demands it.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/5jl78mv-VWo

Mossfern

(4,731 posts)
6. Agreed
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:09 PM
Oct 2025

They don't deserve any praise for this so long after they were taken and so many were tortured and horrifically killed up close and personal.

lostincalifornia

(5,431 posts)
7. No they don't. And trump will be given credit for this. I hope those
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:16 PM
Oct 2025

genocide Joe, and Kamala protesters are happy. They too have blood on their hands, and the very real possibility that the Christian nationalists will take over our government, and the loss of our Democracy.

Lancero

(3,280 posts)
11. Of course they're happy, this is what their ultimate goal was.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:35 PM
Oct 2025

They got exactly what they voted for.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
8. My prediction is they won't release them
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:43 PM
Oct 2025

Hamas is a death cult. They have no incentive to let them go and every reason to ensure they die miserably.

Furthmore they’ll never agree to disarm. Betting this deal is already DOA since many of the provisions have been struck down multiple times before by Hamas

Igel

(37,567 posts)
12. There's a following clause, though, that makes this conditioned on other things.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:22 PM
Oct 2025

My take: They've studied and gotten counsel about how Putin strung Trump along for quite a while, and they've mastered the art of that kind of deal.

Johnny2X2X

(24,311 posts)
13. Lucy holding that football.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:29 PM
Oct 2025

Why are people falling for this? Netanyahu and Trump told the world their plan already and this isn’t it. Their plan doesn't leave a single resident of Gaza left, they will all be killed or ejected.

Stop falling for this nonsense when they literally told us what’s going to happen several months ago.

Response to misanthrope (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
15. Eat a steak, put the bone on your GOAT shrine, and say a thousand Epsteins for contrition. You'll feel better. nt
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:36 PM
Oct 2025

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #15)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
17. You are wrong. Nothing will come of it. Your Faux Noise feed deceives you. Hamas has made extra demands. nt
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:38 PM
Oct 2025

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #17)

Maru Kitteh

(31,869 posts)
19. I have zero confidence in the sincerity of Hamas or Netanyahu
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:47 PM
Oct 2025

I think they are both just shining on with Trump, playing him for a fool because it is so damn easy.

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