Is Trump really close to dying?

[Wiz Imp]

Keith Olbermann speculates in his latest podcast that he may well be.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trump-suddenly-speculating-about-a-future-without/id1633301179?i=1000730345454
Two big revelations:

From anybody else it would be trivia. From Trump this is startling. Buried in an ordinary narcissistic flight: "It'll be very unfair in the future when they (Republicans) don't have Trump to fight for them."

After being MIA for five days – no live public viewing of him, just one video that according to White House time stamps took more than two hours to produce even though it only required him to try to speak for a minute-ten… he EMERGED with what was, even for him, such an utterly bizarre and especially vulnerable admission.

I don't want to get hopes up, but it actually sounds like it might really be serious. Add in some of the comments he apparently made before the Navy and it sounds like his most unhinged speech yet. I tried listening to some of the snippets from that speech from Meidas Touch, but it was too painful. But Olbermann's characterization of it make it sound like it was deranged (You really need to hear it on the podcast):

And THEN Trump went in front of the Navy and said he warned about Osama Bin Laden last year, and told Pete Hegseth about it a year before 9/11, and claimed he was president in 2016 but they fixed the 2016 election, but they ran it again and he "got 250."

What. In The Hell. Is Wrong. With Trump’s Health?

[Captain Zero]

1. He got 250 what? electoral votes? That would have him bankrupting casinos again.

who knows?

[onenote]

36. What he was trying to say is that by winning in 2024, he "got" to be president for the nation's 250th anniversary

Here's the quote in which he refers, in his typically confusing style, to getting 250, the World Cup and the Olympics by having won in 2024:

From the American Revolution until today, the story of the U.S. Navy is the tale of loyalty, sacrifice, and commitment stretching back 250 years. So, we’re celebrating 250. I almost thought I wouldn’t get to do that because I was President in 2016, and then they rigged the election on me. And then we caught him, didn’t we? We caught him. But, you know, we had to run it again. I ran it again, and I got 250, and I got the World Cup, and I got the Olympics. Can you believe all of it?

[hatrack]

45. Everything in the world is about him and he owns everything in the world . . .

"Blahblahblahblah", said the stupid senile fucking bag of lard.

[JI7]

2. I don't think he has been diagnosed with a specific disease

where they told him he has x amount of time left.

But it's more of his age and health being something where it wouldn't be a unusual for him to die any moment.

[emulatorloo]

40. I've seen some suggestions that he'd undergoing chemo.

Having a treatment one day, vanishing for several days to deal with the worst of chemo side effects until they’ve had a chance to subside. Might explain the bruises on his hands.

I have no idea what is going on but I do believe he is ill and the White House is hiding it.

[JI7]

44. One reason I don't think he has cancer is he is still overweight

and hasn't lost any weight.

[Maru Kitteh]

48. But he is suffering a really wild amount of inflammation lately.

Something is going on and I’m quite glad it’s not happening to me, that’s for sure.

[xmas74]

52. I didn't lose much weight on chemo.

Not everyone does.

[chicoescuela]

53. Or any more hair but who could really tell

[mercuryblues]

63. Neither did I

as a matter of fact, I gained weight. Steroids were a part of my treatment plan.

[Trueblue1968]

64. I hope he has Dr CANCER of the Ass ... lungs, Mouth, Feet, Hips anf BRAIN !!!!!!!

[Bayard]

3. What a great Xmas gift that would be!

[Mtnmama]

13. My son keeps telling me Vance will be worse

Anyone else feel that way? As awful as trump is, I don't see how.

[W_HAMILTON]

16. Vance wouldn't have made it past the first few weeks of the primary.

Zero chance that the low information voters that turned out for Trump will turn out for Vance.

[regnaD kciN]

57. He would be far weaker politically...

…but that’s working off the assumption that politics is what matters now.

Trump is an increasingly senile, dementia-riddled husk that is used for P.R. appearances. Stephen Miller is the de facto president at this point. I’m not even convinced that, should Trump actually die, it will even be announced by Miller and the regime – not when they can trot out AI-generated speeches to the nation to make people think he’s still alive. We may find ourselves dealing with Four-Year Term at Bernie’s, with Pee Wee German running the show.

[Ilsa]

65. This could be so much fun watching him try.

[Mtnmama]

17. Interesting article about this

https://open.substack.com/pub/thinkbigpicture/p/after-trump-gone-vance-maga?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

[niyad]

18. vladimir futon is already running things, along with baby goebbels. the

orange creature is the bright shiny thing keeping people distracted. The irang creature is too lazy and too f'n stupid to actually work.

[Morbius]

20. He might not be worse, but I can promise you this:

He absolutely won't be any better.

[Wiz Imp]

23. He's not as stupid as Trump but just as evil. However, no way will he have have the hold on the cult like Trump does.

[Walleye]

29. I don't think so. JD doesn't have a cult.

[MiKenMi33]

39. Vance would be worse.

But Vance doesn’t have any adoring fans or the cult following that the orange one has.

[allegorical oracle]

46. Vance is an opportunistic chameleon...assumes the color of whatever he's near.

[JI7]

47. Vance doesn't have the Cult Support. People need to stop this shit about x y z being worse

There issue isn't just that Trump is a fucking mess but it's that he has a large number of people supporting him.

Vance will not have that just as Kirk's widow will not get the audience he was getting.

[Hayabusa]

51. Maybe, but

I don't think he has the charisma to hold on to the MAGA faithful like Trump can.

[CrispyQ]

55. You slay the monster in front of you.

I don't think Vance will be worse, but I worry they've done so much damage it won't matter if the cult doesn't stick with him.

[drray23]

58. It will matter greatly for congress

Vance will not be able to keep the GOP Congress under control. They are not afraid of him so they will revert to infighting and chaos. No way, he can threaten to get them primaried or worse without a cult.

[mucholderthandirt]

66. Yes, he'll be worse, because they will make him more sane and acceptable, but the agenda remains.

The Project 2025 people are letting Trump do as he pleases because they know once he's gone many people will be relieved and will stop paying attention to all the damage being done to the country. It won't stop, it will just sound nicer and look saner.

[LR3]

24. They will never give up power--they can't if they want to stay out of jail

The U.S. will transition from its current fascism built around the leader to a more vanilla authoritarianism. Sure, Vance won't have the cult following, but he'll be ruthless with the levers of power.

Xi doesn't need to be loved to be an effective authoritarian, he just needs to control everything, and it will be the same with Vance. He's got the media (Musk, Ellison, Murdock), the money (Musk, Andreessen, techbros), and the surveillance state (Thiel).

I'm not sure the orange asshole dying changes the outcome.

[Blues Heron]

4. Could be a tumor and they know when it will get to be a certain size based on its growth rate

[dalton99a]

5. Meanwhile his daily motto is "Death to America!"

[UTUSN]

6. "to fight for them." - he never fights for anybody else but himself.

[chouchou]

7. I certainly hope Donald is going to be OK. (No, not Trump...The duck)

[BaronChocula]

8. He's healthy enough to play golf

Just sayin'. We need to account for that. But whatever may be going on, may it be extremely painful for long periods of time.

[NJCher]

10. Got any footage for that?

The golf footage has been as contrived as his speaking segments. We should take a look at it and see if it is edited , too.

[BaronChocula]

12. Just anecdotal crap

-Dems blasting him for golfing during the shutdown
-Golf friends dishing about his complaints of how unfair everything and not letting go of the UN fiasco

But good point. If these guys were actually smart I'd dismiss all that as a ruse to make it look like he's keeping somewhat active.

[Wiz Imp]

21. It requires very little physical exertion for Trump to play Golf.

He doesn't walk at all. He pulls the golf cart right up next to the ball, slides out of the cart, hits the ball, then slides back in. He even pulls the golf cart onto the green (which would get him kicked out of any golf course but his own). I mean, when playing golf, he spends very little time on his feet, and even less time actually moving. His playing golf doesn't really prove anything as far as his health is concerned.

[BaronChocula]

43. If he was so ill

that he was being kept out of the public eye, I don't think he'd be playing golf. Even trump-style golf. I definitely don't think he'd be playing with those blabbermouth friends who then report back on what he bitched about all day. Again, it could be a setup and they're all in - "Leak to the press some crap that you'd expect me to say, but whatever you do, don't tell anyone the right side of my face is drooping, I'm drooling, my incontinence is loud and constant, I've got scabs on my neck or anything else obvious that I'm trying to hide from the public."

I definitely don't think he's healthy or fit. I would just love him to be even more unhealthy and more unfit so he ain't playing golf. Just my opinion.

[NJCher]

9. A minute and 10" segment took 2 hours?

Cankles got can’tkles.

[littlemissmartypants]

11. Not close enough. Lmk when the death rattle starts.

[LudwigPastorius]

14. He's not dying.

In fact (to paraphrase Hunter Thompson), I won’t believe it when he is finally dies until I can gnaw on his skull with my very own teeth.

[NJCher]

15. Please

Refrain from posting that on the nightly dinner thread.

[Wiz Imp]

25. He's clearly acknowledging his own mortality for the first time and it scares him

I don't know exactly what's going on, but I believe he is in far worse physical condition than he is letting on.

[niyad]

19. A year before 9/11 kegsbreath was a 19 year old drunk.

[Tommy Carcetti]

22. I'll believe it when I see it.

The man is a cockroach.

[Emile]

26. He looks youthful and in perfect health!

[bucolic_frolic]

27. 3 weeks on, 1 week invisible

draw your own conclusions

[GoCubsGo]

31. Yup, and lather, rinse, repeat.

We're onto what? The the third round of this shit?

[Maru Kitteh]

50. He's an Eduardian-era debutante with the vapors?

[Jersey Devil]

28. Most people on their death be don't golf every weekend

Keith tends to get a bit carried away at times.

[Emile]

35. It's not like he's walking the golf course.

[Melon]

61. Right. He has a personal doctor 24/7. He gets the best health care in the world.

I have no idea how Biden had undiagnosed cancer. They literally live with doctors at the ready.

[themaguffin]

30. donnie clearly has many issues, but this is just pointless by Keith. Someone donnie's age can rapidly decline and

many of us have seen elderly member of our families decline. We just have no idea with trump.

[Autumn]

32. I thought that years ago about Cheney after his 2nd heart transplant. And here we are.

People die while evil people get world class healthcare that keeps them alive.

[Traildogbob]

33. I hope not

I want his death to be long, drawn out, debilitating painful, humiliating, for him and for his cabinet that wipe his fat ass, clean his golden bed pan and push cheese berders into his feeding tubes and he has to do it all in Mardi Lardo, NOT OUR HOUSE.
With masses of poor ass illiterate MAGA’s fighting to get in for a kiss and hug. And bang cow bells 24/7 to the sound of YMYA blaring from big ass trucks bellowing black smoke to keep batteries working for the stereo. The people he would never allow near him because they are poor.
And it all starts like this week.

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

34. Trump is woke to the fact that he is a spent shell casing.

[PCIntern]

37. Did anyone write anything on that casing?

Enquiring minds want to know!!

[Rebl2]

38. Maybe

he has kidney disease of some kind.

[Wiz Imp]

41. More oddities from Trump sure to fuel additional speculation

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-texts-cnn-host-renew-160955789.html
Trump’s Texts to CNN Host Renew Health Speculation

Donald Trump has sparked a fresh frenzy about his health after giving a very unorthodox CNN interview.

The 79-year-old president gave an exclusive interview to State of the Union host Jake Tapper Sunday, but bizar
rely texted his answers in at an unspecified time before the show rather than speaking in person or calling.

In his interview, graphics of Trump’s texts were shown on screen.

On X, however, CNN viewers speculated that Trump turned to his keyboard to avoid being seen—if it was even him sending the texts at all.

Link to tweet

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Link to tweet

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Link to tweet

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[NCDem47]

42. Ridiculously bad for Tapper and CNN

TEXTS(?!?!) as an interview? Just no real journalistic standards.

[misanthrope]

49. I have no idea and neither does anyone on this board

to the best of my knowledge.

[Pinback]

54. What's probable IMHO

is that he has recurring UTIs (urinary tract infections), a not-uncommon experience for older people, in addition to other problems. A UTI can make you act and talk like a lunatic (or, in his case, like more of a lunatic). His handlers would want to keep him out of the public eye while the antibiotics get him back to his regular level of lunacy.

IANAD, but my parents each went through this cycle quite a few times in their Golden Years.

[Jack Valentino]

56. Paraphrased from Ronald Reagan: 'Every day I include in my morning and evening prayers,

the prayer that Donald Trump will very soon be taken by God to his reward'


(AI Overview
In 1976, during his presidential primary campaign, Ronald Reagan stated, "I have included in my morning and evening prayers every day the prayer that the Federal Government not bail out New York". Reagan was referring to the 1975 New York City fiscal crisis, during which the city faced bankruptcy and sought federal assistance. )

[PATRICK]

59. Grim Reaper

will come before he is finished with ANY scheme he thinks of a legacy, as victory- delusions aside. That sort of thing creates resentment and destructive lashing out. A tantrum. Then- and this seems true for the public record of ANY really bad evil behavior- there is no final change of heart. They just disappear somewhere at the Dark Gate, none of their deeds receiving any just accountability except maybe a violent death. His cronies keep egging him on past any doubt or change or repentance. He has much less chance than the fictional Faust. He only covers over his fears with more evil.

But if he did make the only great thing he could possibly do, a public repentance and some reversal of his damaged life, that would be of an act of extraordinary rarity of spiritual power. It is the ONLY thing that could do not to end up on the forgotten trash heap- and infinitely worse if what haunts the Hamlet soul be true.

He still has time enough to pull off THAT impossible change of heart. Never enough to undo the damage.

[SSJVegeta]

60. We can absolutely outlast him.

If he goes, so does Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka. They will be replaced with whoever is in Vances senior staff... which might be better?

[mr715]

62. So..

It really sounds like somethings up. Death of Stalin shit, cept he wouldn't the decency to go out quickly.

I know I know I abhor political violence in all its forms. Yup. Wouldn't wish death on, idk, the houseplant of my enemy. But uh, yeah, somethings up. Its gonna happen.

I might even have fun watching what happens after, and I know that makes me a kinda bad person, but I'll live with it.