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It's a pretty big deal that the NYC Bar Association--one of the most prominent and respected bar associations in the country--is accusing the President of ordering the "unlawful summary execution," i.e. murder--of civilians in violation of US and international law. www.nycbar.org/press-releas...
— Jameel Jaffer (@jameeljaffer.bsky.social) 2025-10-06T20:40:26.143Z
It's a pretty big deal that the NYC Bar Association--one of the most prominent and respected bar associations in the country--is accusing the President of ordering the "unlawful summary execution," i.e. murder--of civilians in violation of US and international law. https://www.nycbar.org/press-releases/unlawful-attacks-on-venezuelan-vessels/
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BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)evolves
(5,875 posts)to distract from that. Anything.
bucolic_frolic
(55,840 posts)Larger nations would consider it an act of war, but Venezuela is no match for the US.
canetoad
(21,031 posts)He picks on those unlikely to strike back.
Dave says
(5,468 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,249 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,754 posts)That's why he'll do it again and escalate.
progressoid
(53,387 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)of the U.S. Constitution and international law. Article I, section 8 of the United States Constitution explicitly reserves to Congress the power to declare war, which over time has meant that Congress must authorize the use of military force. The President serves as Commander-in-Chief, which authorizes him to command the use of force when authorized by Congress and in cases of actual self-defense. Because there has been no such authorization to use force against Venezuela or against ships operating in the area (or any plausible threats justifying self-defense), the Presidents military actions against the Venezuelan vessels and their crews cannot be justified as an exercise of the Presidents power to use force authorized by Congress.
Nor is it a lawful use of force carried out under the Presidents inherent powers as Commander-in-Chief. Under the 1973 War Powers Resolution, the President may introduce U.S. armed forces into hostilities only when specifically authorized by Congress or in the case of a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces. The recent attacks on Venezuelan vessels and crew were not authorized by Congress and were not in response to any such attack on the United States, its territories, possessions or armed forces. Rather, on the facts as they have been presented by the President and the press, these boats were targeted based on a purported justification that drug trafficking presents a broad threat to national security, not that the United States or U.S. forces were under threat of attack.>
summation.
So, would that put him in the category of
INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINAL?
Skittles
(172,886 posts)HE IS A FUCKING CRIMINAL WHO PARDONS CRIMINALS
Attilatheblond
(9,249 posts)Seems his bail should be revoked since he is still actively committing crimes.
Skittles
(172,886 posts)WTF
bluestarone
(22,466 posts)A million REC's!!!
xocetaceans
(4,444 posts)... for prosecution.
BadgerMom
(3,437 posts)Jack Smith!
Aussie105
(8,180 posts)then blow a ship out of the water . . .
Have they considered that they may be following illegal commands?
Coast guard not intercepting these boats if they come too close?
Questions need to be asked and answered!
Where is the proof that justifies total destruction?
Imagine if China or North Korea did this to boats that came too close or were suspect?
malaise
(297,984 posts)Rec
FakeNoose
(42,425 posts)I wouldn't be surprised to find out - after he's cold and dead - that Pootie told him to do it.
Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)Not only is he a rapist and felon, hes a murderer too.
Aussie105
(8,180 posts)How do we know they are Venezuelan?
How do we know they are drug boats?
Were they in Intenational waters or US waters?
Why doesn't the coast guard do what they used to do - intercept once in US waters, seize drugs if any, imprison or repatriate the people on board?
The Blue Flower
(6,596 posts)He's trying to start a war.
ecstatic
(35,135 posts)Nothing will get through to tRump's dumbass but what about his accomplices? Do we have chargeable crimes yet?
tritsofme
(19,933 posts)ecstatic
(35,135 posts)Although Pam could always turn on tRump at any moment when he's no longer of any use to them.
spanone
(142,062 posts)I could have missed it.
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