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Per live presser - "apparent human remains" found in Webster shooter's home (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 OP
Perhaps his sister.. monmouth3 Dec 2012 #1
That's what both local and national news are saying... Rhiannon12866 Dec 2012 #2
Who do you think bought the guns - malaise Dec 2012 #8
Did you hear that his mother left money for the Fire Services when she died malaise Dec 2012 #3
wow. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #5
Wow indeed malaise Dec 2012 #7
That's what I fear, too! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #4
link... TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #6


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2. That's what both local and national news are saying...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:11 AM
Dec 2012

This guy killed his grandmother! What is he doing out and about, let alone with a gun?!


(270,894 posts)
3. Did you hear that his mother left money for the Fire Services when she died
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:56 AM
Dec 2012

and that 'apparently' pissed him off.


(270,894 posts)
7. Wow indeed
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:04 AM
Dec 2012

One theory is that he was upset about a donation his mother, who died in the past year, made to the fire department, he said. Another theory is there could be a connection to his arrest in the killing of his grandmother, he said.


Happy Holidays!!


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6. link...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:57 AM
Dec 2012

Police investigating the ambush Monday in upstate New York in which two firefighters were killed said Tuesday that they had found what appeared to be human remains at the gunman's home. Authorities said they believed the remains were those of the gunman's 67-year-old sister, who lived with him.

William Spengler, 62, opened fire on the volunteer firefighters as they responded to a blaze in Webster just before 6 a.m. ET Monday in a small cluster of homes near Lake Ontario, police said. The firefighters — Michael Chiapperini, 43, a lieutenant with the Webster police, and Tomasz Kaczowka, 19 — were shot dead, and Spengler killed himself as seven houses burned around him.

Earlier, police said Spengler had left a three-page typewritten note saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and "do what I like doing best, killing people."

At a second briefing Tuesday, Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering said police believed the probable human remains were those of Cheryl Spengler, 67, who had been missing since the ambush.


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