It doesn't matter if Comey and James get their cases dropped eventually

[edhopper]

The message is clear. Don't fuck with Trump or his goons will put you through shit.
Many do not have the where with all or resources to fight the DOJ. They will hold back rather than face charges.
This is how tyranny works.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. It will matter, especially if there is discovery or countersuits. There are other counters as well. . . . nt

[moonshinegnomie]

18. plus is they start sanctioning th elawyers bringing the cases for malicious prosecution

[pfitz59]

2. At this point

I'm sure many fired DOJ lawyers would gladly take a pro bono case just to stiff Bondi

[Mr. Evil]

12. I firmly believe that.

Thank you!

[Escurumbele]

19. Lawyers are being suid, and I am sure that James is looking forward to sticking to both Bondi and trump

They know they are going to win the case, then the DOJ, us I guess the tax payers, will have to pay court fees, and maybe even a suit, or prosecute trump and Bondi for defamation.

[C_U_L8R]

3. The point is to inflict suffering

Just imagine how much this is costing each of Trump's victims. There has to be some recourse.

[Alice B.]

4. I was wondering this myself. When people talk about malicious prosecution ...

The prosecution should be on the hook for legal expenses and maybe compensation... I would think that would be an excellent way of ensuring the system isn't abused.

But I'm guessing this is another situation where we count on Ethics and Norms.

[Sneederbunk]

5. The members of the TSF Administration better hope that

the next administration is not as vindictive as this one.

[Karma13612]

6. Well, I've had enuf.

I actually hope the next sane administration WILL hold these monsters accountable. And all the charges will be valid because what’s going on now is ripe with illegality. Ripe with malicious prosecution. We need to send a message that what is going on now will never happen again.

No more Merritt Garlands, no more milquetoast AG’s. We need strong, fair, even handed, by the book, fierce defenders of the Constitution. I want to see them kick ass and take names.

[JustAnotherGen]

8. Harris

VP Harris. She's stated clearly - the system is broken.

[Mr. Evil]

14. Whoever the next Democratic president is,

they had better nominate a fire breathing bulldog as AG! My guess is, that they will have truckloads of evidence to prosecute every MAGA asshole to hell and back. And they'd better do so or this shit will happen again.
They love it when the orange pustule says "lock her up" regarding Hillary. But, they have zero evidence of any crime and the mindless rubes gobble it up. Wait until their overlords start cutting deals right and left because we have so much evidence of so many crimes their heads are spinning off their shoulders. I hope I live long enough to see it and love it!

[lame54]

7. We seem to have a grand jury problem...

An incompetent prosecutor with no case only brought because the prez illegally publicly demanded it

These cases have already gone too far

[TheRickles]

10. Good point - why did the grand jury support an indictment if the case was so feeble?

Did they also feel threatened?

[Ponietz]

11. The aphorism "a Grand Jury will indict a ham sandwich" is very true

[otchmoson]

16. It's been years,

but I sat on a grand jury in my small (redneck) town. I didn't know anything about what was going on, except I answered my jury summons, had no excuse not to serve, and showed up and was sworn in. If I remember correctly, we state attorney came in, gave us a little speech of what the case was about, gave us his point of view of the evidence (not much), sent us to the jury room, (if we were allowed to ask questions, it wasn't clear to us), and wham! bam! indicted. With years to consider my participation, I certainly understand how a ham sandwich could be indicted. If only I had known then what I understand now! Regrets.

[InstantGratification]

21. The thing with grand juries that make getting an indictment such a low bar...

... is that the prosecutors are almost always the only ones presenting evidence and making arguments. IANAL, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've never seen a real life case where a defense lawyer was present to make arguments to the grand jury and present defense exhibits, only on TV in Law and Order.

Also the prosecutor can withhold exculpatory evidence from a grand jury whereas they are required to provide that evidence to defense lawyers who would put it in front of a petit jury. That allows prosecutors to paint a grim picture with no defense present to create a counter narrative.

These cases are so weak, that Comey and James have a respectable chance of having them dismissed by the judge in pretrial motions.

[TheRickles]

22. Thanks. This info is helpful, even if you are NAL. :-)

[electric_blue68]

24. I had to look up what exculpatory evidence was!

Ok ...question

Can a Grand Jury ask about exculpatory evidence?

[InstantGratification]

31. Pretty sure they can ask questions

I'm not positive, but I don't think the prosecutor is obligated to tell them about it. He would probably just tell them something like, "I have presented my evidence, you are charged with voting on the indictment based on the case I have made." I will point out again that IANAL and I've never sat in a grand jury proceeding. My knowledge of all this comes from being a fan of original Law and Order and a general fascination with our legal system, paired with above average googling skills. A real lawyer might well shoot down my comments.

[electric_blue68]

32. Ty. Your conjecture about the prosecutor 's reply sounds probable.

[multigraincracker]

9. With the Markets crashing, he's the one in big trouble.

[Prairie Gates]

13. It does matter

[ancianita]

15. Okay we get it. Now, how about laying out how resisting tyranny works. How about we do more of that.

[edhopper]

17. Usually with death

Tyrrany kills those who resist.

[LymphocyteLover]

20. these cases will FAIL... and will reveal how weak trump is

[edhopper]

23. The cases have already

Succeded in scaring his opponents.

[LymphocyteLover]

25. Have they? Tish James doesn't seem scared.

Neither does Comey.

[marble falls]

27. Going after Tish James will backfire on them.

[LymphocyteLover]

28. it already has-- apparently Halligan didn't even notify Bondi that she was going to indict James

causing a new controversy

[marble falls]

29. I hope it gets stickier and deeper.

[edhopper]

33. Please read my OP

[marble falls]

26. It does matter if these cases get droped. Dropped cases means fewer will be filed to begin with.

[Irish_Dem]

30. Yes Trump doesn't care if the cases are dropped. The damage has been done.

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