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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHegseth decried 'fat troops.' Then a photo of hefty National Guard soldiers went viral.
WASHINGTON Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told hundreds of top military commanders last week that it was "tiring" to see "fat troops."
The arrival of the Texas National Guard to Chicago could leave him exhausted.
Days after a viral picture of hefty troops arriving in Chicago from Texas on President Donald Trump's controversial orders prompted online mockery, the National Guard said soldiers would be booted off active duty if they couldn't adhere to height and weight standards.

The viral photo, snapped by ABC News, showed several heavyset Guardsmen in military fatigues hopping out of a truck with rifles and duffle bags in hand as they deployed to the city earlier this week.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/hegseth-decried-fat-troops-then-222355434.html
Karma13612
(4,900 posts)NJCher
(42,240 posts)Bmoboy
(603 posts)These guys work at Walmart.
Do we want violent warriors at the checkout?
markodochartaigh
(4,828 posts)I'm sure that some Texans are saying yes. The shooter in this story was asked to leave the store so she and the person with whom she was arguing went outside where she shot the other person. What would have happened if the clerk was armed? I think that more people would have been shot. But I know that many Texans would not agree with me.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dispute-woman-dallas-store-allegedly-led-deadly-shooting/story?id=126377999
Bmoboy
(603 posts)Hegseth wants soldiers who are trained to "kill, kill, kill."
Aristus
(71,487 posts)I guess these guys don't have to; or if they do, their test is a little less......demanding, I suppose...
HappyH
(157 posts)and we had to pass a yearly fitness test. There were weight requirements and pretty intense PT requirements. I'm not at all sure what Kegsbreath is going on about. Maybe he's just puffed up and stupid?
Aristus
(71,487 posts)For nearly everybody, morning PT wasnt enough. We would hit the gym or the track after work and on the weekends. For us, physical fitness was more than just a requirement (especially for tankers; if you cant lift heavy weights, youre finished), it was a source of pride.
We definitely need to enforce physical fitness standards for our troops.
But Hogsbreaths animus against beards is just racist.
HappyH
(157 posts)so daily PT was not really a thing. But we were tested as a unit and our CO and First Sargent made sure that we knew when the test would be and that we knew where the gym was. You got an opportunity to retest if you did not pass, and you got personal attention preparing for your retest, attention that most folks in my unit did not want.
I rode bicycles almost daily to stay in shape. There were miles of little used roads on post and it was a great way to blow off stress.
What confuses me is Hegseth goes on about wanting physical standards for our troops. The standards already exist and they are enforced for active duty personnel. You could look at the brass assembled by trump and hegseth and tell, there were no fat generals in that room.
I think that the National Guard fellows from Texas would look a lot better pretty quickly if they were called up to active duty.
TheBlackAdder
(29,942 posts)mwmisses4289
(2,998 posts)They are carrying their duffel (which will weigh quite a bit) plus their firearm, and a couple of them look like they are also carrying a back pack of some type. So 50-75 lbs of gear.
And they aren't wearing makeup.
I would be surprised if hegseth and his staff could manage the backpack.
TheBlackAdder
(29,942 posts)Cha
(316,262 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:43 PM - Edit history (1)
I don't care how big they are.. It's the damn hypocrisy and fucking Bullshit of the Neo Nazis I hate.
mwmisses4289
(2,998 posts)in addition to whatever clothing, bedding and toiletries they need.
TheBlackAdder
(29,942 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,306 posts)Unlike He-Man Petey-boy who begins each day at the makeup table
multigraincracker
(36,823 posts)could drop a ton of wait.
TheBlackAdder
(29,942 posts)markodochartaigh
(4,828 posts)n/t
Hekate
(100,131 posts)And also
But also
But also
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(132,017 posts)One is shorter than the other. Look at their uniforms also.
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)I've known identical twins in the military during my service. Some served in the same unit together. This could be similar.
PatSeg
(51,778 posts)but yeah, they look like identical twins to me.
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)PatSeg
(51,778 posts)I can't blame them for being in Chicago. They are just following orders and I'm sure they'd rather be at home with their families.
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)Definitely praying for them to keep their moral strength.
PatSeg
(51,778 posts)I don't have much confidence in the ICE thugs, but I have to hope that our military will live up to their oath.
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)PatSeg
(51,778 posts)The least of the least among the poorly educated, brainless thugs. They thrive on violence and power.
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)Perhaps folks should start sending ICE toilet paper with the constitution printed on it as a nice, bold statement.
https://www.printedtp.com/products/custom-printed-toilet-paper-2-pack
PatSeg
(51,778 posts)but I did think they looked very similar like brothers or twins. It obviously is hard to tell from just one photo.
markodochartaigh
(4,828 posts)I don't think that they look particularly similar. Heavy set people do tend to look more alike, probably since there is less definition in the face due to their weight. And these two guys have that generic "European snub nose face" that is found everywhere from Ireland to Russia.
Scrivener7
(58,030 posts)all Hispanics look alike? Why do you assume they're Hispanic? Why not German? Why not Eastern European? Why not just guys born in Jersey?
Why do YOU assume those 2 guys who look alike are Hispanic?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Most likely real.
SSJVegeta
(2,206 posts)The AI stuff has been messing with my brain and will continue to do so.
spike jones
(1,985 posts)leftstreet
(38,682 posts)no kidding
JoseBalow
(9,061 posts)
spike jones
(1,985 posts)AllaN01Bear
(28,340 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,999 posts)to me like he might have a valid point based on the photo I'm seeing here.
I wonder if these guys were chosen on purpose to make his point more obvious?
Jilly_in_VA
(13,709 posts)No hot dogs, no pizza for you! You will NOT be served!
Mike Nelson
(10,883 posts)... about their weight, I would advise these men to state they are working hard to reflect the standard being set by the Commander-in-Chief - we want to be as "tall, slender, and handsome" as he!
Tbear
(658 posts)All yall are welcome here as people but as a unit- dont shoot anyone, you are not needed
LudwigPastorius
(13,996 posts)Those brothers got more chins than a Chinese phone book!
Shipwack
(2,962 posts)First off, it's body shaming.
Second, these are not frontline troops. To expect guardsmen/women to maintain a trim form when most of their time is spent as civilians is unreasonable.
Third, these people are volunteers to serve their country. While their motivations vary, they are willing to trade free time and comfort to serve when needed (not their fault that the current administration is misusing them).
Fourth, their physical appearance is not necessarily a good gauge of their abilities or efectiveness. As someone already mentioned, they are carrying a good bit of gear. They can't be too out of shape.
Fifth, how they look in fatigues is not necessarily an indication of what shape they are in. When I was in a service, there were people that by the standard tests had a a bodyfat measurement above 30%, when in reality they had little body fat... For example, Samoans or serious bodybuilders.
Sixth, I don't care if they can hike twenty miles carrying 80 pounds of gear; that's why we have trucks. What I want to know is can they fix a targeting computer in the field under pressure.
leftstreet
(38,682 posts)If Hegseth hadn't given his creepy speech about military fitness and fat generals...
it's the irony is all
TrollBuster9090
(6,111 posts)...all those troops are 6'4" and 199lb, will live to be 200, and have the greatest genes of any soldiers in the history of our country...
Cha
(316,262 posts)and then some.
Wonder what the Texas NG thinks of the Shithead of War Crimes?
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,508 posts)My husband had to be under a specific weight for his height and age. I made sure he ate nutritious meals and kept active. He retired at the end of 1999 with a total of 22 years in that also included his 4 years active duty with the USAF.
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MineralMan
(150,469 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(173,912 posts)Irish_Dem
(78,909 posts)Scrivener7
(58,030 posts)They joined a force whose purpose is to help us in emergencies.
And now they're being made fun of everywhere. I get the irony, but these guys don't deserve this.

