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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStock market CRASHED today.
Stocks were doing pretty well recently.
So therefore, Dotard had to step in and wreck it.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sinks-800-points-sp-500-and-nasdaq-see-worst-day-since-april-as-trumps-renewed-tariff-threats-spook-wall-street-200026352.html
C_U_L8R
(49,604 posts)that he lashed out at China and spooked investors.
He's such a fucking idiot. All spite and no brain.
multigraincracker
(38,225 posts)bucolic_frolic
(56,201 posts)I said what's going on .... Trump announces new tariffs on China.
Tech and AI got smashed. Of course once this plays out he'll TACO and up we go. Play the cycles.
patphil
(9,289 posts)He's got masked "brown shirts" running around the country, kidnapping people and putting them in jail without due process, and national guard troops in major cities terrorizing the general population.
This is his idea of peace.
He's also talking about having the military "train for war" on the streets of our cities.
He thinks this has no impact on getting the peace prize.
Peace prize, NO! POS prize, much better chance.
Greg_In_SF
(1,312 posts)up over 7800 points since April.
Demsrule86
(71,560 posts)fare better than most. Trump is the grifter in chief.
Greg_In_SF
(1,312 posts)People always say that and it never happens.
uponit7771
(93,533 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Demsrule86
(71,560 posts)We have economic problems...job losses. The market is divorce from the economy in many ways. But almost everyone is involved in the market-not just the rich. There is no real value in the market of today.
We have tariffs...Hoover was a big tariff guy. The banks are shaky...and we have burned crops rather than sell them...we have unrest. Did you know that Hoover called out the Army to attack American citizens who had served in the WWI and wanted their bonus money.
If we don't manage to keep snap benefits, we will see starving people lining up for food. We have already had some of that.
We came damn close in 2008 to a depression. Obama saved us. He was smart and guided us back to safety. Now we have Trump...the most stupid, corrupt, idiotic president in my life maybe ever. We are so screwed. The dominos are in place. Time will tell if we manage to stop this monster.
EdmondDantes_
(2,239 posts)There are more breaks in the system and protections. We do need a return to not trying to go for unicorns and everyone over biasing towards "potential" over actual products, but those started long before Trump.
uponit7771
(93,533 posts)EdmondDantes_
(2,239 posts)We globally know far more about the economy than in 1929 so that level of crash is almost certain to not happen again.
uponit7771
(93,533 posts)... which is how long it took the DOW to return to 08 peak after fall of about 50% value.
In that return to index parity the US spent trillions devaluing the currency so the bail out to mega rich weirdos wasn't "free"
On the other hand it does look like we're in a melt up
W_HAMILTON
(10,487 posts)But, hey, who cares about better and more stable returns when you can have volatility and fascism!
WarGamer
(18,925 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,487 posts)WarGamer
(18,925 posts)The DOW gained 18.73% in 21.
Post COVID jump
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,487 posts)Even though elected MAGAts claimed they were back and """open for business""" in the summer/early fall of 2020, we know the country didn't really open back up until Biden took office in 2021 and his administration helped coordinate a successful roll out of the vaccine, which was what led Americans to finally feel safe to return to pre-COVID life.
When Trump was in office, the timeline for me getting my vaccine was September 2021 at the earliest; Biden took over and I was able to get my vaccine in either March or April, I can't remember which.
Thank you, Joe Biden!
PS - When did you get you're vaccine, WarGamer?
WarGamer
(18,925 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)uponit7771
(93,533 posts)edhopper
(37,632 posts)to make Trump look good.
The Dow was at 44500 when the Dolt took office, he then crashed it to the April low point you chose.
It is now at 45400. That is a 900 point gain since the festering boil took office. Or about 2% in 10 months.
And the bottom is a long way down.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)anciano
(2,333 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(24,340 posts)It isnt even a correction.
How soon we forget the big dive of last spring, which has since recovered and gained further.
Market volatility is a fact of life in the Trump era.
AZ8theist
(7,731 posts)But when my IRA lost $11G in one day, it sure feels like a crash to me.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,340 posts)Otherwise youre overweighted in some funds.
doc03
(39,228 posts)it is just another engineered buying opertunity. Market goes up anounce tariffs market goes down.
Disaffected
(6,656 posts)or even Crash or crash. Please stop the FUD.
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W_HAMILTON
(10,487 posts)...I sure as hell hope you aren't one of the ones in this thread defending Trump after he alone caused the market to drop damn near 1,000 points solely because the fascist had another temper tantrum.
EdmondDantes_
(2,239 posts)I see people pointing out this is a small percentage change. Bringing context into the discussion is a good thing.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Just that morning an analyst had dumped cold water on the "irrational exuberance" case by saying that the rise has been "orderly", which it kind of has been since May after the April fall and recovery.
2.7 percent in one day is not an orderly temporary pause or pull back. It might turn out to be one or the other of those, but orderly it is not.
GoodRaisin
(11,148 posts)Signaling to his billionaire friends, and It will soar on Monday.
Greg_In_SF
(1,312 posts)is closed Monday.
GoodRaisin
(11,148 posts)LuckyCharms
(23,378 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)gab13by13
(32,981 posts)Right before Krasnov proclaimed he was adding tariffs on China causing the market and Crypto to tank, someone shorted Crypto and made a boat load of money.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)EdmondDantes_
(2,239 posts)Not sure if it's a reliable source but the Blockchain record is a thing. Of course being unrealized gains doesn't inherently mean they are going to realize said gains because the market (crypto and otherwise) goes up and down.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)SocialDemocrat61
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lark
(26,136 posts)He's doing it purposefully to fuck us over and to profiteer for himself.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)His grifting takes other forms, most recently with the tRumpRX scheme for drugs that has junior on the board of directors of the company centrally involved.
lark
(26,136 posts)This is something he's pushed for years - starting back when he had a half way functioning brain. He grifts in so many ways, Im sure we're not privy to even a fraction of his treachedy and theft.