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lostincalifornia

(5,513 posts)
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:46 AM Oct 2025

Trump Says Hamas Will Be Disarmed

"Notably, one country that isn’t sending a high-level representative to the Egypt summit is Iran -- one of Hamas’s main supporters.

Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Egypt invited him but he couldn’t engage with people (ie the US and Israel) who have attacked and sanctioned Iran. Even so, Iran “welcomes any initiative” that ends the war in Gaza, he said.

Trump in his remarks praised his own decision in June to fly seven “of those beautiful B-2 bombers” to drop bunker-busting missiles on key nuclear sites in Iran, as well as Israel’s targeted killing of Iranian nuclear scientists and military commanders during its 12-day war with the Islamic Republic. He said that destroying Iran’s capability to develop a nuclear weapon -- something Tehran has repeatedly denied it wants to pursue -- was a pre-requisite for the rest of the Muslim and Arab world backing the Gaza ceasefire deal.

“They took a big hit didn’t they. Boy oh boy,” Trump said, referring to the strikes on Iran. Still, he raised the prospect of a peace deal with Iran, asking his audience in the Knesset “you know what would be great, if we could make a peace deal with them, would you be happy with that?” He followed the thought by saying that brokering peace between Russia and Ukraine would take priority.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-10-13/trump-visits-middle-east?srnd=homepage-americas





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Trump Says Hamas Will Be Disarmed (Original Post) lostincalifornia Oct 2025 OP
That means they won't. Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #1
"...those beautiful B-2 bombers" PatSeg Oct 2025 #2
The B-2 Spirit is by no means beautiful to look at, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2025 #4
I think it is the death and destruction PatSeg Oct 2025 #8
Hamas got everything they wanted in Phase 1 of the peace deal Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #3
There is no way HAMAs is going to disarm, despite what Been A Dick Donald may think or say, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2025 #5
Oh I agree Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #7
Yup, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2025 #10
You know who had a peace deal with Iran Johonny Oct 2025 #6
Stupid, ignorant, delusional dalton99a Oct 2025 #9

PatSeg

(53,497 posts)
2. "...those beautiful B-2 bombers"
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:21 AM
Oct 2025

Once again, his peculiar use of the word "beautiful" right up there with "beautiful sleeping gas" and "beautiful clean coal".

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,171 posts)
4. The B-2 Spirit is by no means beautiful to look at,
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:30 AM
Oct 2025

now the B-1B Lancer is a beautiful aircraft to look at, but it's purpose is to inflict suffering on a grand scale, which is not "beautiful".

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PatSeg

(53,497 posts)
8. I think it is the death and destruction
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:39 AM
Oct 2025

that he finds "beautiful".

That IS a remarkable looking aircraft though.

Prairie Gates

(8,465 posts)
3. Hamas got everything they wanted in Phase 1 of the peace deal
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:25 AM
Oct 2025

They got a ceasefire, an end to the Israeli blockade of aid, and a 100-1 hostage swap (2000 for 20). They did not disarm, nor did they agree to the bizarre Tony Blair mandate government.

Whether they follow through on Phase 2 at all (disarmament, international monitoring and control of Gaza) will determine whether Trump was successful in this deal. If they blow off Phase 2, it pretty much means that they fought the Israelis to a stalemate and took what they needed from the Trump deal while ignoring anything they didn't want.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,171 posts)
5. There is no way HAMAs is going to disarm, despite what Been A Dick Donald may think or say,
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:35 AM
Oct 2025

armed HAMAs "police" are already back on the streets, or what's left of Gaza's streets, exacting revenge on those they deem collaborators.

Prairie Gates

(8,465 posts)
7. Oh I agree
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:38 AM
Oct 2025

Netanyahu was losing the war and was looking for a face-saving way out. This was it. The two-phase structure was designed to win Trump a peace prize in the process.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,171 posts)
10. Yup,
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:41 AM
Oct 2025

this so called "peace" deal is nothing more than a way for Nuttyahoo to save face and Been A Dick Donald's burning desire for the Nobel Peace award, not about the suffering in that region.

Johonny

(26,563 posts)
6. You know who had a peace deal with Iran
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:37 AM
Oct 2025

Obama. You know who tore up the peace deal . . .Trump.

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