Is this lasting pace, or just a glorified ceasefire?

[Rustynaerduwell]

Because I've seen no hint of a structured settlement both sides could live with.

[Wounded Bear]

1. I'm going with the latter...

especially since no party to the agreement - trump, Netanyahu, or Hamas - can be trusted to be truthful over any span of time.

[dalton99a]

2. The bombing will resume by year-end

if not before

[Johnny2X2X]

5. I give it until the end of the week.

Trump and Netanyahu think that land belongs to them now, they aren't going to stop just because the hostages were returned.

[ForgedCrank]

3. I don't believe

anyone is under any delusions that include Hamas being peaceful.
This is the same repeating cycle that has been going on for decades. They attack Israel, kill a bunch of people, Israel pounds them into dust, they claim to want peace, Israel agrees, then they use the time to re-stock their ammunition and weapons. Then they do it again, and again, and again.
Israel is naive by falling for this yet again

[highplainsdem]

4. If Palestinians are removed so Trump and Netanyahu can have anything like Trump Gaza, I'd expect decades of

repercussions and retaliation, not peace.

[travelingthrulife]

12. This what i never understand about any of this. There will be revenge acts forever

for the Palestinian genocide.

Israel is definitely not safer.

[OLDMDDEM]

6. I believe the bombing will continue soon.

[Ocelot II]

7. It won't last.

In any negotiation, it's always the tricky final details that are the hardest to agree on. That has especially been the case in the long, dismal history of failed Middle East peace deals - where "final status" issues like where borders would be drawn, and the location of a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem, have tripped up negotiators in the final stretch. In this case, it's the reverse situation.

Yes, there's an agreement for a ceasefire, and the release of hostages and prisoners. But almost everything else appears to have been pushed out to be dealt with later - from the date of a full Israeli withdrawal, to who will govern Gaza afterwards, to an implausible "pathway to Palestinian statehood". The last ceasefire between Israel and Hamas fell apart in March, when a second round of negotiations that were supposed to finalise a peace agreement never got underway. This deal is supposedly far more comprehensive. However, some elements directly contradict Israel's "red-line" positions.

All of which means there is any number of ways this could all fall over - perhaps within days.

*Hamas may not disarm.
*The details of Israel's withdrawal are extremely vague.
*No consensus on Gaza authority. Gaza is to be governed by a temporary committee of Palestinians and international experts to deliver day-to-day public services, overseen by a Board of Peace chaired by Trump - until control can be handed over to a reformed Palestinian Authority.

That's not going to happen, according to Netanyahu - and possibly, also according to Hamas.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/575749/why-the-gaza-ceasefire-could-collapse-over-coming-days

[TheProle]

8. Time will tell. Trump, Bibi nor Hamas can be trusted to act in good faith.

But the release of the hostages is a huge deal and a step in the right direction, so I am heartened by that alone. For now.

[Initech]

9. It's giving credit to the fascists in power.

That's it. It's just grandstanding to keep fascists in power because they are not popular.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. I'll be surprised if the "cease fire" lasts until the end of the year,

neither HAMAs, Nuttyahoo or Been A Dick Donald can be trusted.

[kentuck]

11. Gaza has been decimated.

Where was Trump the last two years as the place was being destroyed, with people dying and children starving?

In my opinion, they have found a couple of stooges that they can say are "Hamas leaders" and declare that they have a "peace plan". The real leaders of Hamas will be looking for revenge.

This is all a sham created by Trump and Netanyahu, in my opinion. It will permit Bibi to save face.

[True Dough]

13. I'm with the majority here

It will hold no more than three months. Wouldn't be surprised if it's just a few weeks.

[MineralMan]

14. History says it's likely to be a short-lived peace.

That part of the world has a very, very long history. Actually, the longest history we know of. Several thousand years of history, and almost all of it involves tribal fighting and wars of some kind. The Middle East reflects the human tendency to distrust and even hate those who are not part of our own clan.

So, I doubt it's going to last long.

[malaise]

15. The latter n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

16. Ceasefire Only

[JT45242]

17. Glorified ceasefire as soon as Bibi faces losing power and trial, it ends

Surprised if it makes is January

[Ritabert]

18. Nothing has changed. They wany Gaza gone for their Gaza Riviera.

[bif]

19. What's a "lasting pace"?

[lame54]

20. Just announce the investigation...

We'll take it from there

[Silent Type]

21. Who knows? But we have to keep trying even if another failure like the 20+ peace agreements that came before.

[Deep State Witch]

22. Glorified Cease-Fire

I understand that it's pretty much the same cease-fire that Biden negotiated, and that collapsed once Taco Tits got into office.