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D. Spaulding

(512 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 12:28 AM Oct 2025

Did anyone read David Brooks piece in The Atlantic?

Pretty powerful call to action against the damage of what Trump's doing, and to think, it had to come from someone who identifies as a conservative.

"Although Trump’s actions across these various spheres may seem like separate policies, they are part of one project: creating a savage war of all against all and then using the presidency to profit and gain power from it. Trumpism can also be seen as a multipronged effort to amputate the higher elements of the human spirit—learning, compassion, science, the pursuit of justice—and supplant those virtues with greed, retribution, ego, appetite. Trumpism is an attempt to make the world a playground for the rich and ruthless, so it seeks to dissolve the sinews of moral and legal restraint that make civilization decent."

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/11/autocracy-resistance-social-movement/684336/

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Did anyone read David Brooks piece in The Atlantic? (Original Post) D. Spaulding Oct 2025 OP
Read it? I just posted as much as DU allows. usonian Oct 2025 #1
He's been simping for the Republicans for the last 10 years. And now he's worried? GoneOffShore Oct 2025 #2
Not sure this take of David Brooks is on the nose. summer_in_TX Oct 2025 #7
I've always found him to be intellectually dishonest with just a hint of misogyny. GoneOffShore Oct 2025 #9
He is an arrogant halfwit Cosmocat Oct 2025 #12
Yeah, my memory of him was that he once was obnoxious and pompous. He's better now but I don't know if I trust him. CTyankee Oct 2025 #17
Thank you, David Brooks!!!!! nt LAS14 Oct 2025 #3
Back of the line, David BaronChocula Oct 2025 #4
Yes I read it earlier today, and there are people complaining loudly about Brooks who have not ... Hekate Oct 2025 #5
Couldn't agree more. D. Spaulding Oct 2025 #6
Thank you, a great read. Abolishinist Oct 2025 #8
Years late, billions short . . . hatrack Oct 2025 #10
Yes indeed. Still proud of David for his eloquence on this subject. librechik Oct 2025 #11
Correct Cosmocat Oct 2025 #14
DU comments on threads like these make me wonder sometimes GusBob Oct 2025 #13
its tough for anyone who called bullshit on the likes of Brooks and Friedman Cosmocat Oct 2025 #15
I see your point. I feel like saying "Oh, NOW you are complaining? Where have you BEEN?!!! CTyankee Oct 2025 #18
Correct. The vast pools of money in various places proved too much of a temptation for those wiggs Oct 2025 #16
Better late than never peggysue2 Oct 2025 #19

summer_in_TX

(4,202 posts)
7. Not sure this take of David Brooks is on the nose.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 12:47 AM
Oct 2025
He's been simping for the Republicans for the last 10 years.


David Brooks grew up and was educated in a conservative tradition, but not the version of today which isn't conservative at all. He was a Republican for decades, just not the reactionary type exemplified by Pat Buchanan and Trump. He was quite critical of W, especially in his second term and he's yet more critical of MAGA and Trump. From his books and columns, that's when he became much more independent.

He voted for Obama. Not sure about in 2012, but definitely in 2008.He voted for Biden. Dunno about Hillary but wouldn't be surprised. I'm quite sure he voted for Kamala. He saw what Trump is long ago, and has been one of the first calling for people to take to the streets.

He still leans conservative, but he votes for the candidate he views as best for the nation. I love his writing, and find a lot of food for thought there. I agree with him as often as I disagree.






Cosmocat

(15,441 posts)
12. He is an arrogant halfwit
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:16 AM
Oct 2025

Spent the 90s and early 2000s trying to not smash my TV whenever he was on with his elitist right wing "intellectual" bullshit.

DT didn't just pop up out of thin air and take over that party.

For decades the David Brooks of the world softened up the "middle" of the country with the simple ass bullshit about "small government" "lower taxes" no matter how wrong they always were.

CTyankee

(68,291 posts)
17. Yeah, my memory of him was that he once was obnoxious and pompous. He's better now but I don't know if I trust him.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:57 AM
Oct 2025

I like to see him with Capehart who gives him the "look" when he is being even slightly pompous. Capehart won't let him off the hook, ever. I root for Capehart, a gay black man who has learned a lot from life. But I do credit David with at least showing up and enduring the smackdowns by Capehart!

BaronChocula

(4,625 posts)
4. Back of the line, David
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 02:02 AM
Oct 2025

Now that white somewhat moderate conservative elites are being targeted AMERICA NEEDS A MASS MOVEMENT NOW?

Hey, bro. The people who have been behind movements in America are talking. Sit down.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
5. Yes I read it earlier today, and there are people complaining loudly about Brooks who have not ...
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 02:28 AM
Oct 2025

I’ve had some issues with David Brooks over the many years, but he is intelligent and well meaning — and I gladly give him credit for having seen the light. I do not insist that all pundits agree with me, and true conservatives don’t give me heartburn — much.

He’s okay.

Abolishinist

(2,977 posts)
8. Thank you, a great read.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 01:20 AM
Oct 2025

"If you think Trumpism will simply end in three years, you are naive. Left unopposed, global populism of the sort Trumpism represents could dominate for a generation. This could be the rest of our lives, and our children’s, too."

And for those who hit a paywall,

https://archive.ph/UcNjG

hatrack

(64,986 posts)
10. Years late, billions short . . .
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:12 AM
Oct 2025

My attention budget re. David Brooks has been zeroed out for quite some time now.

librechik

(30,957 posts)
11. Yes indeed. Still proud of David for his eloquence on this subject.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:26 AM
Oct 2025

Wish he had spoken out sooner.

Cosmocat

(15,441 posts)
14. Correct
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:18 AM
Oct 2025

He spent decades helping to push the country to the edge of the cliff and now that we are over it he wants to be the voice of reason?

GusBob

(8,268 posts)
13. DU comments on threads like these make me wonder sometimes
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:18 AM
Oct 2025

So many 'blame the messenger and ignore the message' comments

I get it, it was long article, and maybe a bit too cerebral for breakfast? can we make it a tik-toc video or something?

I think its intellectually dishonest to trash it because of the byline

To the point: a couple of days ago there was neat article about robotics in China how folks were surprised about about the rise of dark factories. Well many months ago Thomas Friedman wrote an in depth fascinating article in the NYTimes about the subject posted here.
Because it was he, and the NYT was out of favor at the time for some reason, the writer and paper were roundly mocked while the subject matter was world-changing, and the textual information was not addressed in any of the comments

It was a great article and bookmarked, thanks or posting

Cosmocat

(15,441 posts)
15. its tough for anyone who called bullshit on the likes of Brooks and Friedman
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:23 AM
Oct 2025

in the 90s and early 2000s,. who spent decades and built their brands normalizing the horrible policies and positions of the right wing that softened up the country to take the steps toward the cliff we are now over, to praise them for playing the violins now that we are in free fall.

CTyankee

(68,291 posts)
18. I see your point. I feel like saying "Oh, NOW you are complaining? Where have you BEEN?!!!
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 11:00 AM
Oct 2025

wiggs

(8,827 posts)
16. Correct. The vast pools of money in various places proved too much of a temptation for those
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:22 AM
Oct 2025

who saw a way to acquire them...and they recognized that the only way was through autocracy and cruelty and recognized that there was an easily controlled con man who could be the catalyst within a vulnerable system.

the world generates, saves, and spends ungodly amounts of money and the bosses want more of a taste than they were getting. Enough to put them out of reach of laws, voting, environmental collapse, courts, resistance, etc..

peggysue2

(12,553 posts)
19. Better late than never
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 12:27 PM
Oct 2025

I confess, I've always thought David Brooks was a pompous ass ready and willing to defend the indefensible.

But . . .

This is a damn fine essay with a fierce point of view, well-placed and accurate historical references and a reminder that the American experiment has always been messy. The Republic is not over yet unless we allow the continuing degradation through our silence, our fear, our unwillingness to push back in whatever way we can.

And yes, Saul Alinsky was right--ridicule is a mighty weapon, a seasoned tool of resistance. In fact, I just read that a group in Portland is handing out inflatable costumes for Saturday's No Kings March. The frogs and their companions will be out in force. The giraffe may have been arrested but it's not stopping other protesters.

Well worth the read.

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