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gab13by13

(32,601 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 08:38 AM Oct 2025

Do We Need To Create A Democracy Party

Last edited Wed Oct 15, 2025, 10:06 AM - Edit history (1)

The Republican Party morphed into the Magat Party which doesn't follow rules, norms, laws. The Magat party shits on unwashed Americans and uses the money and power of billionaires to gain control for a small minority of people.

To clear up any confusion, I am not talking about creating a 3rd party.

The Democratic party is still playing by the old rules, norms, and laws, should it morph into the Democracy Party which should run on the platform to do whatever is necessary to regain our democracy? When 6 Magat controlled states redistrict, then 7 Democratic party controlled states will redistrict.

The platform of the new Democracy party will be comprised of adding 4 or more justices to the Supreme Court. The new Democracy party will be a party that embraces and fights for the downtrodden. The new Democracy party will run on taxing the rich, restoring the IRS to audit the rich. The new Democracy party will embrace the word Socialism by pointing out that the current Magat party is the real Socialist party for the rich.

The new Democracy Party should run on the platform of voting entirely by paper ballots, including mail in ballots.

The new Democracy party should run on repealing the Telecommunications Act should run on bringing back telling the truth and exposing Liars.

The new Democracy party should run on bringing ethics and honesty back to elected officials from the president on down.

The new Democracy party should run on holding members of the Magat party accountable by prosecuting everyone who was complicit in destroying our Constitutional Republic.

The new Democracy Party should run on single payer health care, should run on raising the cap for Social Security and lowering the eligibility age to receive Social Security.

The new Democracy party should run on saving our planet and proudly and fearlessly support green energy.

I repeat this because it is very important - the new Democracy party should run on prosecuting anyone no matter his or her economic status for destroying our democracy, including but not limited to current members of our Supreme Court, current members of Congress, current members of Krasnov's administration and if found guilty tossing them in prison.

I almost decided not to post this, but then I realized that Krasnov is getting ready to invoke the Insurrection Act, without cause, and our Supreme Court will allow it. The new Democracy Party needs to use every legal means to fight back.

Get out and join in the No Kings rallies across the country, we are the majority. The No Kings rallies could have been organized by the new Democracy party, but thank you Indivisible.

All we need is a fearless strong man or woman to lead the party.

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Do We Need To Create A Democracy Party (Original Post) gab13by13 Oct 2025 OP
We already have a democracy party Bluestocking Oct 2025 #1
What did I post that makes you believe I turned against the Democratic party, I want them to fight harder. gab13by13 Oct 2025 #8
100% Blue Full Moon Oct 2025 #28
No we do not need a new Party.... FarPoint Oct 2025 #2
The parties we have do not allow fearless leaders. It allows leaders who Autumn Oct 2025 #7
Disgusting post. Why advocate abandoning the Democratic Party for some bullshit fantasy? tritsofme Oct 2025 #3
You misread what I am saying, gab13by13 Oct 2025 #12
It's the same Brand New Congress/Our Revolution/Justice Democrats goal to take over the Democratic Party since betsuni Oct 2025 #24
This is a forum for supporters of the Democratic Party. Read the platform. betsuni Oct 2025 #4
If we're going to have a revolution let's have a real one. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2025 #5
We need something. What we have isn't working against these fucking fascists. Autumn Oct 2025 #6
This post deserves to be hidden EYESORE 9001 Oct 2025 #9
I know what it takes to stand up to powerful people. gab13by13 Oct 2025 #13
Why not poach elsewhere? EYESORE 9001 Oct 2025 #15
I want our party to do better, gab13by13 Oct 2025 #19
I knew you would get shit for doing the right thing. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #23
Great idea! We could call them, I dunno... DEMOCRATS! NT Happy Hoosier Oct 2025 #10
Yes, that is what I am saying gab13by13 Oct 2025 #14
Sounds like a great platform for 2028 Fiendish Thingy Oct 2025 #11
Yes, that is what I am saying. gab13by13 Oct 2025 #16
You might want to edit your OP to make that clear Fiendish Thingy Oct 2025 #17
It seems that the old "rules and norms" are also called the US Constitution Walleye Oct 2025 #18
You need to clarify what you are advocating here. sop Oct 2025 #20
I think the most immediate result of that would be the dilution of left-wing strength/potential Torchlight Oct 2025 #21
"morph into" dlilafae Oct 2025 #22
We already have one: The Democratic Party MineralMan Oct 2025 #25
So much pearl clutching in this thread! Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #26
I know, I am shocked. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #27
So you think creating a third party is a good idea SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2025 #29
I read the whole thread. Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #30
Congratulations 🎊 SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2025 #31
You have a lovely day, now. Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #32
You too! SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2025 #34
The only new party needed is one to split conservative votes. I'm tired of fuckery to split Dem votes. themaguffin Oct 2025 #33

Bluestocking

(740 posts)
1. We already have a democracy party
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 08:41 AM
Oct 2025

It’s called the Democratic Party. Turning against the Democratic Party will only strengthen the Facist, I mean Republican Party

gab13by13

(32,601 posts)
8. What did I post that makes you believe I turned against the Democratic party, I want them to fight harder.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:17 AM
Oct 2025

Not voting for the CR is encouraging. I donate to Democratic candidates; I donate to Indivisible and the ACLU. I do not donate money for campaign ads right now, I donate to people and organizations who are fighting right now. I applaud the change in strategy from Chuck Schumer in not voting for the CR until safeguards to Obamacare are in place. He and a handful of Senate Democrats should have done this back in March's CR vote before our healthcare was gutted in the Big Ugly Death Bill.

The president controls the purse strings, Congress has been neutered and is complicit with our soon to be dictator. The Supreme Court has been complicit with our would be dictator, giving him immunity from prosecution, and very soon it will allow him to invoke the Insurrection Act which will be the downfall of our democracy, waiting to beat them in the next election is too late.

Bernie and AOC were the face of the Democratic party travelling across the country drumming up support for our democracy and pushing back against authoritarianism. Many Dems did do town halls but were they organized from the top down?

Hopefully our party is coordinating with Indivisible, coordinating with the ACLU, coordinating with Marc Elias' law firm.

Time Matters. Hopefully the country gets behind our party for fighting for Obamacare.

FarPoint

(14,920 posts)
2. No we do not need a new Party....
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 08:47 AM
Oct 2025

No time first of all..... we need to build the Democratic Party with fearless leaders.....

Autumn

(48,997 posts)
7. The parties we have do not allow fearless leaders. It allows leaders who
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:07 AM
Oct 2025

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look out for and guard capitalism and corporate hood. Look how afraid both parties are of Zohran Mamdani.

gab13by13

(32,601 posts)
12. You misread what I am saying,
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:26 AM
Oct 2025

The old Republican party is no more, it has morphed into the Magat party.

I only want the Democratic party to morph into the Democracy party, a party that must not rely on old norms and rules being followed because they are not. We need a morphed party that adapts in ways to counter what the Magat party is doing.

Back in March Democrats were primed to take a stand and not vote for the CR but a minority of Senate Democrats kneecapped the majority.

Voting for the CR in March gave Krasnov everything he wanted and democrats got nothing in return and as a result the Big Ugly Death Bill became law and gutted our healthcare.

Not voting for the recent CR was the first act of the new morphed Democracy party, we need more of this.

betsuni

(29,214 posts)
24. It's the same Brand New Congress/Our Revolution/Justice Democrats goal to take over the Democratic Party since
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 10:31 AM
Oct 2025

almost a decade ago. A fearless populist democratic socialist savior would lead the political revolution to take over the fictional corrupt immoral status quo establishment elite Democratic Party. Then Republican and Independent voters and everybody else would join the revolution in solidarity.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,033 posts)
5. If we're going to have a revolution let's have a real one.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:01 AM
Oct 2025

None of this can be fixed by tweaking a system that’s inherently rigged against the People in favor of the monied interests.

gab13by13

(32,601 posts)
13. I know what it takes to stand up to powerful people.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:32 AM
Oct 2025

I did it 50 years ago in my small town by protecting our town's water supply. I live in a bright red town but I organized the town got the largest number of people to attend council meetings. I was asked to run for borough council by my county Democratic chair, I ran and won with the largest number of votes. I worked with my county chair to get a majority of Democrats on our borough council.

I got death threats and spent many sleepless nights but I knew how to take on powerful people.

Your threat to me does not scare me.

EYESORE 9001

(29,861 posts)
15. Why not poach elsewhere?
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:33 AM
Oct 2025

I’ve seen nothing but negativity for months regarding Democrats in office. I invite you to reread the TOS.

gab13by13

(32,601 posts)
19. I want our party to do better,
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:51 AM
Oct 2025

I voted for John Fetterman, donated to him, he is my Senator and I have refrained from being critical of him because I believe the stroke he had changed him. Lately he is voting against Democrats, am I allowed to say that?

The vast majority of Congressional Democrats decided to vote no on the CR back in March. Senator Schumer organized a small minority of Democrats to vote for the CR. I am allowed to say I think that was a bad decision? The vast majority of Congressional Democrats voted NO back in March.

Do you stand with what Schumer did? I am not afraid to give my opinions. You say I am anti-Democrat, I am a nobody.

In my younger years, not only did I work with my county rep to elect Democrats, I was a part of a group that met with Jack Murtha in DC to urge him to vote against a bill that would hurt our union workers. Jack went around the table and asked every one of us to convince him why he should vote no. He kept it from coming out of committee.

Irish_Dem

(82,023 posts)
23. I knew you would get shit for doing the right thing.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 10:06 AM
Oct 2025

So did you, but you did it anyway.

Courage is what it takes to speak truth to power.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,786 posts)
11. Sounds like a great platform for 2028
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:26 AM
Oct 2025

But no need to create a new party, just create a revolution within the DNC.

It’s already begun with Mamdani and the many Gen Z activists and elected officials like Frost and Talarico (not to mention AOC, who is a millennial).

Reminder: court expansion is not possible without first killing the filibuster dead, Dead, DEAD.

Also, the next Dem president should follow Trump’s example and withhold all federal funds from any state that has redistricted between censuses, and not reverted to 2020 census district boundaries.

gab13by13

(32,601 posts)
16. Yes, that is what I am saying.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:35 AM
Oct 2025

We still have the Republican party but really it is nothing like the old party, it has morphed and I'm just saying the Democratic party needs to morph to counter it.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,786 posts)
17. You might want to edit your OP to make that clear
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:42 AM
Oct 2025

Some folks are freaking out thinking you are advocating for creation of a third party.

Torchlight

(6,987 posts)
21. I think the most immediate result of that would be the dilution of left-wing strength/potential
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:54 AM
Oct 2025

being drained into two different organizations allowing the conservatives to reach even greater heights of abuse in power.

dlilafae

(463 posts)
22. "morph into"
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 09:55 AM
Oct 2025

being the wording you chose gab13by13. I am not confused. I get exactly what you are suggesting. That spines match spines and the Democratic party does not match the fervor of its opponents. We must realize that we're dealing with an opposing party that is not playing by the rules. We know that they are using the SCOTUS to hollow out our democracy. Yes, I would like to see some strategic game plans as well. If for no other reason than to insure that we are not going to the polls in vain, that the Democrats DO have a fighting chance to win. In addition, I would like at least a smidge of assurance that in time, this retribution and lawlessness will come to an end.

Scrivener7

(59,967 posts)
26. So much pearl clutching in this thread!
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 11:36 AM
Oct 2025

But that's par for the course when someone suggests Democrats have room for improvement.

Mustn't say THAT!!

Irish_Dem

(82,023 posts)
27. I know, I am shocked.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 01:42 PM
Oct 2025

A vicious, brutal gang of nazi psychopaths have taken over our government,
destroying our country.

Someone has the guts to talk about playing hardball
and fighting to win against evil.

And people here are on the fainting couches.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,927 posts)
29. So you think creating a third party is a good idea
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 07:42 PM
Oct 2025

Splitting the votes on the left and ensuring republicans win elections? And I thought we were here to support the Democratic Party.🤷🏻‍♂️

themaguffin

(5,309 posts)
33. The only new party needed is one to split conservative votes. I'm tired of fuckery to split Dem votes.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:14 AM
Oct 2025
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