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Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 04:34 PM Oct 2025

If or when they gut the Voting Rights Act is there

Anything we can do to counteract the many seats we will lose in the south to redistricting. Mark Elias says 12 minimum but probably way more

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JBTaurus83

(1,675 posts)
1. I wish
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 04:57 PM
Oct 2025

There was an answer that looks positive for us. No, I am not saying to give up, but, I do think winning the house will be a very uphill battle with all of the roadblocks they are setting up.

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UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
2. K&R for, this, and a couple of other questions:
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 05:01 PM
Oct 2025

* Is this decision going to be held until June '26?

* And if so, won't that be too late for the regressive states to draw new districts by Midterms?




walkingman

(11,157 posts)
4. I'm white and I grew up in the Deep South under Jim Crow.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 05:31 PM
Oct 2025

It took blood, sweat, and tears for decades to get the Voting Rights Act.

In today's society it expands beyond Black people to include Latinos, women, LGBTQ+, and even people with disabilities. It revels itself with mass incarceration, voter suppression, attacks on women and LGBTQ+ rights, economic inequality, discriminatory environmental policies (notice where polluting industries are built?).

I personally think, in hindsight, that it would have been worthwhile for the filibuster to have been eliminated during the Obama administration in order to pass the "John Lewis Voting Rights Act".

I hope I'm wrong, but I would not be surprised if the entire Southern political landscape will likely be dominated by the GOP with radical racial gerrymandering.

Never underestimate nasty white people - history has shown us this over and over.
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W_HAMILTON

(10,438 posts)
7. This Supreme Court would have sliced up the John Lewis Voting Rights Act as well.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 05:58 PM
Oct 2025

I'm sort of glad we didn't eliminate the filibuster so that the next time we have a trifecta, we can use it as a blitzkrieg to expand the courts and Supreme Court. That's the only short-term way out of this.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
9. LBJ re the VRA, "We've lost the South for a generation." - and counting.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 06:44 PM
Oct 2025

Amazing how the poorest states (Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana?) vote against their self interest.




walkingman

(11,157 posts)
11. I also find this very interesting. Here is my opinion...
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 07:27 PM
Oct 2025

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Amazing how the poorest states (Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana?) vote against their self interest.


I think that in this country most people either consciously or unconsciously put themselves into a social class of either "hard-working" self-reliant or "lazy" dependent on others or the government.

Because the Democratic Party tends to support social programs which help everyone regardless of class, many perceive those that are on SNAP, Medicaid due to low income, SSI (or what some call welfare), etc. many white working class people tend to vote for the GOP simply because they think..."I work hard every day and we are not the kind of people to depend on charity" which in their eyes is represented by DEMs.

"The meritocracy trap, or the myth of meritocracy, is a dominant idea in the U.S. that people’s socioeconomic standing is due to their own merit; the people at the top deserve their success, and those at the bottom, their failure."

Just my opinion - it could be a Southern attitude, but I have seen it all my life.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
13. Ur totally *on*! - When KRASNOV came down the danged escalator in '15
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 08:51 PM
Oct 2025

and called "Mexicans" the things, I thought ZERO Hispanics would ever support him and I was very wrong. The first clues at Happy Hours were Hispanics saying "we needed a businessman" - forget his bankruptcies. Then what u said kicked in, that all Dems were on "welfare".

And I figured out who they were - small business construction plumber owners who work hard and think everybody else is a "welfare cheat".

Little do they know that the war contractors, farm business subsidy suckers-up are the biggest "welfare" suckers-up.




Hekate

(100,133 posts)
6. Support California's Prop. 50 and any other state in the union that is doing likewise. We are doing this for you...
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 05:54 PM
Oct 2025

…and the people of your state. It’s the only way we can fight the New Jim Crow just now — ensure that more blue districts get more Dems into Congress.

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
8. We could need 20 more seats after the 5 from California
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 05:58 PM
Oct 2025

I hope you're right.I hope it can be done I hate these fuckers

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