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Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright': Virginia Giuffre on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, (Original Post) malaise Oct 2025 OP
Droit du Seigneur usonian Oct 2025 #1
If you know the opera, "The Marriage of Figaro" by Mozart Wednesdays Oct 2025 #15
Know it? I've memorized it. 😄 usonian Oct 2025 #16
Why is Maxwell in a minimum security prison? Total slime. Botany Oct 2025 #2
... progressoid Oct 2025 #5
+1 dalton99a Oct 2025 #13
Drip, drip, drip Donnie... Volaris Oct 2025 #3
From the grave malaise Oct 2025 #4
the reason markie Oct 2025 #6
+ 100% malaise Oct 2025 #7
Never forget that Trump not only did he rape the girls (sex under the age of consent by somebody over 18 ... Botany Oct 2025 #12
He was a big buddy with the famous child fucker Woody Allen too. Botany Oct 2025 #17
i bet if and ever these hit the light of day other things will crumble . AllaN01Bear Oct 2025 #8
Why wouldn't he believe that? He was raised royal. Iggo Oct 2025 #9
There must be a lost of dudebros in the US who are royalty as well. Torchlight Oct 2025 #10
Heartbreaking, painful read. Passages Oct 2025 #11
. dalton99a Oct 2025 #14

usonian

(26,206 posts)
1. Droit du Seigneur
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:04 PM
Oct 2025

Droit du seigneur - Wikipedia

Droit du seigneur was a supposed legal right in medieval Europe, allowing feudal lords to have sexual relations with any female subject, especially on her wedding night. Learn about its history, terminology, and references in literature, law, and folklore.

Epstein conveyed "feudal lordship" for a price.
And videos.


Wednesdays

(22,952 posts)
15. If you know the opera, "The Marriage of Figaro" by Mozart
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 04:25 PM
Oct 2025

It's the crux of the entire story.

usonian

(26,206 posts)
16. Know it? I've memorized it. 😄
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 05:19 PM
Oct 2025

Scandalous! Crossdressers! Flirtation!

But Mozart won a Nobel Prize for this great opera!

Botany

(77,682 posts)
2. Why is Maxwell in a minimum security prison? Total slime.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:07 PM
Oct 2025

Virginia Giuffre died by suicide on 25 April 2025. In February 2022 her lawyers obtained a settlement from Prince Andrew.

I had to stop reading it after this:

“”We know where your brother goes to school,” Epstein said. He let that sink in for a moment, then got to the point: “You must never tell a soul what goes on in this house.” He was smiling, but his threat was clear. “And I own the Palm Beach police department,” he said, “so they won’t do anything about it.”

From the start, Epstein and Maxwell held me to my promise to be available at all times. Some days, the call would come in the morning. I’d show up, perform whatever sex acts Epstein wanted, then hang out beside his vast swimming pool while he got some work done. If Maxwell was there, I was often told to attend to her sexually as well. She kept a bin of vibrators and sex toys handy for these sessions. But she never demanded sex from me one-on-one – only when we were with Epstein. Sometimes there were other girls there, too, and I’d end up staying at El Brillo Way all day.“

markie

(24,034 posts)
6. the reason
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 03:46 PM
Oct 2025

Epstein is such a hot topic and so many want to erase and forget is that it is not just trump or clinton or..... it is bigger and I surmise that when it comes out there will be a lot of men that we still may not suspect...

I say burn it all down, name every single one no matter the politics, wealth, education..... I want them ALL named and shamed

Botany

(77,682 posts)
12. Never forget that Trump not only did he rape the girls (sex under the age of consent by somebody over 18 ...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 04:20 PM
Oct 2025

…. Is rape) but he was an active player in Epstein and Putin’s (lot of Russian and Eastern European were
involved) international child sex trafficking operation via his planes, modeling contests, and beauty pageants so as to recruit new child sex slaves. I have no doubt that young boys were provided to rich
men if that is what they wanted. And @ the end of the day not only did Epstein and Maxwell get tons of
money from their rich clients for sexual services but also lots of kompromat was obtained and blackmail
material was collected too. I am sure Epstein had video cameras every where.

AllaN01Bear

(29,744 posts)
8. i bet if and ever these hit the light of day other things will crumble .
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 04:05 PM
Oct 2025

would like to see his tax returns . his health reports and the stolen secret items he stole returned . ie trump

Iggo

(50,000 posts)
9. Why wouldn't he believe that? He was raised royal.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 04:08 PM
Oct 2025

Didn’t even have to learn it on the street.

He came pre-fucked-up by his family.

Thanks, royalty!

Torchlight

(6,981 posts)
10. There must be a lost of dudebros in the US who are royalty as well.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 04:12 PM
Oct 2025

It's a common rationalization to hear a billion variations on "you owe this to me" in regards to 'social expectations'

Passages

(4,379 posts)
11. Heartbreaking, painful read.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 04:14 PM
Oct 2025

A courageous young woman, I wonder how many people understand how brave she was.


Eventually, may every rotten bastard be revealed.

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