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https://www.wonkette.com/p/are-you-ok-google-ai-do-you-needDoktor Zoom
You'll never guess what Wonkette did now!
Sort of humorous, in a Freddie Krueger type of way.
Key events leading to the exodus
Owners post: On December 22, 2024, Schoenkopf published a post on Wonkette that was widely criticized for being a hit piece against former staffers. The article reportedly mocked and disparaged former contributors and included what many felt was a humiliating attack on a former intern.
Criticism from readers and former staff: The post sparked significant backlash, with many readers and former writers condemning the owners behavior as cruel, unprofessional, and mean-spirited.
Mass departure: In response, several writers resigned and numerous readers began to abandon the blog. This led to the creation of the term Wonkette refugees to describe those who were looking for a new online community.
Search for new platforms: The refugees began migrating to other platforms, including the independent blog Your Dads Wonkette and various social media groups. The new blog was established by a group of former Wonkette editors and writers and offered a new home for the disaffected community.
Nope, none of us remembered any of that, either, because the entire string of events was hallucinated by Googles algorithm. There was no mass exodus of writers and editors, and December 22 was a Sunday, so Rebecca wouldnt have written anything that Googles large language model could have even misinterpreted as a hit piece about people who are still mostly here. And sadly, Your Dads Wonkette also doesnt exist, though maybe we should register the domain just to be safe.
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Fiendish Thingy
(24,055 posts)Why cant we just unquestioningly copy and paste AI summaries as our OPs and insist they are factual?
JFC, Facist Brain Police
AZJonnie
(4,016 posts)1) It is a cheap-to-run model. It has to be, otherwise, with the volume of searches Google handles every sec of every day, worldwide, the cost to operate a more thorough and reliable model for all of them would be prohibitively expensive, and
2) What people generally type into their Google searches is inconsistent with what would constitute a well-formed AI prompt.
3) AI's seemingly innate tendency to try to deliver what the user wants to hear (or read) even when it has insufficient context to glean what the user is really asking.
"Wonkette Refugees" or anything similarly short will rarely be a good AI prompt. That is not giving it nearly enough information to do it's job. These types of search strings work totally fine as a regular google search prompt, but not as an AI prompt.
AI and Google search are just two very different tools, and you have a generation of people trained to properly Google search. But now this cheap AI tool has been grafted onto it and is intercepting the requests and trying to treat them as it would a properly formed prompt. With unpredictably accurate results in many cases.
Consider the response to this question, provided by a model where I pay monthly for professional version I use mostly for work:
No, there is no significant evidence on the internet of the usage of the phrase "Wonkette refugees" to describe a mass exodus of writers from Wonkette following a December 2024 article. In fact, the exact opposite is true - this entire narrative was completely fabricated by Google's AI search algorithm.
The Real Story
The phrase "Wonkette refugees" only gained attention because of a Google AI hallucination that occurred in October 2025. When Wonkette staff member Robyn searched for "Wonkette refugees" to find previous articles about refugee policy, Google's AI generated a completely fictional narrative about:
A December 22, 2024 "hit piece" by founder Rebecca Schoenkopf against former staff
Mass departures of writers and editors
The creation of fictional spin-off blogs like "Your Dad's Wonkette"
Various made-up controversies and staff exodus ...
*** SNIP ***
AI Hallucination Problem
The incident demonstrates a well-documented problem with large language models creating confident but completely false information. When researchers continued searching, Google's AI generated increasingly elaborate fiction, including fake blog names, non-existent staff departures, and fictional controversies.
In summary: The phrase "Wonkette refugees" exists only as evidence of AI misinformation, not as documentation of any real controversy or staff exodus at the political blog Wonkette
I then asked the following to make sure this model was not giving me a bad answer. Note I did a full copy of the response with placeholders for the links so readers here get an idea of how thoroughly a good (paid) AI model will consider a well-formed prompt:
The reply:
** snipping a long-winded explanation **
### Conclusion
**Yes, I did this independent research separate from the content of the Wonkette article.**
I corroborated my statements from primary sources and by searching every plausible record of controversy, mass departure, or the specific phrase "Wonkette refugees." The only mentions are in relation to the recent (October 2025) debunking of an AI-generated scenario. There does not appear to be a single piece of prior evidence or supporting record for such an exodus or for the alleged disparaging articlein archive, reporting, or social media.
If you would like direct excerpts or want me to reference the full text of any December 2024 Wonkette article, or perform a search in additional content archives, let me know!
[1](https://www.wonkette.com/p/us-refugee-centers-to-help-white/comments)
[2](https://www.wonkette.com/archive)
[3](https://www.wonkette.com/p/gop-how-dare-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-compare-our-concentration-camps-to-those-concentration-camps)
[4](https://www.wonkette.com/p/samantha-bee-sorry-for-thinking-first-amendment-somehow-applies-to-her-her-mistake-obviously/comments?triedRedirect=true)
[5](https://www.wonkette.com/p/are-you-ok-google-ai-do-you-need)
[6](https://www.wonkette.com/p/idea-what-if-we-didnt-purity-test/comments)
[7](https://www.wonkette.com/p/the-laborious-year-in-labor-2024/comments)
[8](https://www.wonkette.com/p/2024-the-year-that-broke-us/comments)
[9](https://www.wonkette.com/p/welcome-to-wonkette-happy-hour-with-a8c/comments)
[10](https://www.wonkette.com/p/2024-the-year-that-broke-us)
[11](https://www.wonkette.com/p/hell-no-and-impeach/comments)
[12](https://www.wonkette.com/p/has-the-fourth-estate-gone-to-hell)
[13](https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/document/download/pdf/uuid/7856546d-f5bf-3ade-afc3-f86632666376)
[14](https://www.wonkette.com)
[15](https://www.wonkette.com/p/new-ice-cruelty-memo-out-more-third)
[16](https://www.rawstory.com/federal-government-retirement/)
[17](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/106399.Jim_Aikin/blog?page=15)
[18](https://x.com/commiegirl1?lang=en)
[19](https://www.kornferry.com/insights/this-week-in-leadership/the-great-ceo-exodus-continues)
[20](https://stratcomcoe.org/publications/download/DSC_NATO_journal_V11_FIN.pdf)
[21](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_and_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints)
The results from Google.com's "AI searches" are most definitely not to be trusted and/or posted as being outright facts. I've not seen many DU'ers doing what you describe, frankly, except in the context of "look how terrible Google's AI searches are"
Then again, neither should any "memes" or "social media posts from internet personalities who's livelihoods depend on clickbait headlines and stories", but I see an AWFUL lot of that going on in the world, and unfortunately even here on DU
Fiendish Thingy
(24,055 posts)RainCaster
(13,888 posts)It's dishonest - they say it 'halucinates'. So while so many companies are laying off people and replacing them with AI, they seem quite willing to accept this dishonesty because the costs are lower.
Keep this in mind as you invest your retirement funds.
Amishman
(5,945 posts)The problem is most people trying to use these tools have no idea what it was trained on. Worse, they have insufficient information themselves to proofread or sanity check the answer given.
The problem isn't that AI is too buggy or flawed to be useful, it's that people are too ignorant to know when and how to use it properly.
'AI' isn't intelligent. It's just a fancy tool for extrapolating based on the data incorporated into its model.
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